You are misunderstood, we are both making two different points.
Original comment was not "a $40k buyer can stretch to a $50k budget" because this thread is comparing the Elantra N to the FL5, so the point he was trying to make was that "a $35k buyer should be able to stretch to a $45k budget"...
You're missing the point.
$10k adm DID buy you something, it bought you the car without waiting a year or more for the prices to come down. Of course not every dealer wanted to get that, most we're happy letting them go with a $5k adm or maybe less. (I'm referencing 2023 prices)
You and I...
I feel you have difficulty understanding things, or maybe you aren’t really reading my responses.
We can speak about fairytale scenarios since that’s what you seem to specialize in, but I’d rather save that for a different forum.
The only point I was trying to make was that a $10k difference...
You also have to remember the countless forum members who are willing to purchase an FL5 that put off their purchase BECAUSE of a mark up that was usually over $5k and some cases over $10k. If they had your logic that $10k shouldn’t make a difference to a buyer who can afford a $40k car then all...
That’s true, I do believe the FL5 had a wealthier buyer, my knowledge is that the majority of FK8 buyers were making a “stretch purchase” but that doesn’t change the fact that a $10k discount from a $45k msrp for a car that performs almost identically is a huge difference. At that point you...
$200 a month in a vacuum is not a substantial amount of money…but comparing 2 similar products, having one for example at $800/mo and the other at $600/mo is a substantial difference. My initial point is that a $10k price difference from a $45k car is a substantial difference, enough to justify...
I would argue your main point, “someone who can afford a $40k car” which covers almost every new car buyer. I believe the average new car price is now over $40k easily, do you think every individual buying a new car today won’t care to save up to $200 a month for a nearly similar product? I...
What do you mean $10k isnt gonna sway anyone...that's over 20% off the FL5 MSRP
In other words that could be a $150-$200 difference per month on a lease or finance, that's enough to understand why someone would choose the N
Very true, my boost blue fk8 has gotten a lot of attention from random people, especially older women (which I'm not sure is a flex or not) but mostly people commenting on the color, and the white CE28s when I had them on. The fk8 has a much more striking appearance than the FL5s, I've had FL5s...
I have this happen to me once in a while in my fk8….i have my transmission oil swapped out to Amsoil, and apparently GM synchromesh does not have the first gear lockout issue.
I never had the problem with stock fluid, even though I swapped that out at my first oil change.
I think the only advantage the N has is the DCT, that would be the only way I would get one (dct also comes with sunroof I think) which at that point would compete with a GTI. I think people who want a manual “fun” car but don’t want to pay Type R prices should really only look at an SI or 86/brz