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I’ll take you at your word! I know interpretation is largely ambiguous…I don’t always come across the way I would like when I’m trying to help folks close to me. Someone’s gotta teach me how to not wreck my daily my first day on track 🤣

All good brother 🤝 tone gets lost online. I do appreciate the VIR feedback — I just felt backed into a corner as a newer guy.

We’re talking past each other. I mentioned VIR only as context for where the car will be used. The question was about validated aero and balance, because I’ve been learning more about aero on my own and wanted to reach out to the community to learn more. When you keep steering it into lap...

AYO still? Who’s to say I don’t have track tires, lighter wheels, better pads, better fluid? Goodness gracious my friend, let me breathe! Lmao I will make sure to check in with you next time I want to start a discussion 😆

Good to know and honestly that’s what I was hoping for. I’m new to track days & tend to dive in and do my homework. I’ve been reading and watching and asking questions. I’m excited to get after it and learn from folks who have seat time.

I was intending to. I think I will get a better feel for the community over the coming months before I do though.

That OEM carbon is slick AND functional. Love the vortex generators on the underside. Cant find raw numbers but watching that video you can tell there is a lot of passion—hopefully that translates to performance, right LOL. Doesn’t seem like you would *need* to balance the front with this...

VIR was mentioned purely as context for where I plan to run so advice could be weighted appropriately — it wasn’t the point of the post. The point was aero validation and front/rear balance on the FL5. You zeroed in on VIR and turned it into a lap-time/experience audit. Lap times can be useful...

This makes sense. Appreciate you, hope to see you out there this year!

100% agree — the OEM wing/aero is part of a system and it’s easy to make the car worse if you change one piece without understanding balance. That’s actually why I’m doing all this homework before buying anything. I’m not looking to improve Honda’s aero blindly — I’m trying to figure out what...

I agree VIR-specific experience matters and get what you’re saying about ROI for VIR — tires/brakes/seat time come first. If aero is truly “last priority” at VIR, that’s useful info — but it still doesn’t answer my question. I’m not trying to turn this thread into a lap-time credential check...

Appreciate the honest answer, that’s exactly the kind of real-world context I’m looking for. Respect for saying you bought the ADRO wing for looks, but still thinking about balance with a splitter. When you say it made a noticeable difference, what did you feel specifically (turn-in, braking...

Thanks — those images are helpful. They actually show the “~200 lb @ ~125 mph” figure refers to the overall Type R aero package at 200 km/h, not the wing by itself. The rear spoiler contribution in the graphic is 580 N, which is about 130 lb at ~124 mph — while total aero items shown sum to...

OEM wing being functional isn’t in dispute — Honda states the redesigned rear spoiler and diffuser “intensify downforce and reduce drag.” But I can’t find any Honda-published source supporting “~200 lb @ ~125 mph” for the wing itself. That figure seems to get repeated online as total vehicle...

Hey y’all! I’m considering a wing/spoiler upgrade, but I’m trying to do this intelligently and keep the car balanced—not just “it looks sick” (though I get that too 😂) From what I’ve found so far: • Spoon and Mugen seems to be one of the only companies actually saying they did CFD + wind...

Gotcha. That is unfortunate. They carry some cool items

New to the game here and wondering how that claim could be proven? Not picking a side but also not going to just believe a random take without evidence. I’m genuinely curious because I’ve been on the fence with placing an order. I was actually thinking to myself that ICB taking the 15% hit and...

10-4, care to go further?

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