Well, the the competition's now about fastest FWD "production" car because of that damn race car lol
I don't think Honda wants to add any more condition to the title. They've won against two seater limited production hot hatches before and I'm pretty sure they'll do it again this time.
I'm not sure how that's supposed to work. Didn't they say DCT was too heavy for the type R?
Making it a baby NSX would be interesting and I'd like to see that happen, but the world isn't ready for a $60K+ MSRP Civic lol
Anyway, I know EVs are not that "eco friendly" at the moment, but let's...
lol I wasn't even trying to make an argument against your comments.
I was clearly just guessing and sharing my opinion in my first comment. What part of "who knows" and "maybe" did you not understand?
Yes, Covid and chip shortage were extreme examples but plans do change as they come closer to...
Right, I'm just guessing.
I never said there will 100% be a refresh of the FL5. IF it's anything like what they've done in the past, they'll stop making the pre-refresh FL5 soon after the refresh of the regular Civics. That's all I'm trying to say. Nobody knows what they'll do with the CTR...
The entire Civic line up will get mid cycle refresh in 3 years.
So I'm guessing that's when they'll stop selling pre-refresh FL5 and nothing's 100% set beyond that point.
Maybe it will be a subtle update like 2020 FK8 or maybe they'll make it a HEV. Who knows lol
I just don't like that the automakers are now trying to sell hp and 0-60.
Mini Electric's pretty damn disappointing as an EV, but I still think that's the closest thing to ICE hot hatches.
Anyway, I'm really excited to see more EVs that are different.
The 74 is a fancy mule for a high performance FCEV that's not coming anytime soon.
RN22, just like the RN30, is a non-production concept to show where they're going.
So they're not "directly" related to what we'll be able to buy from local Hyundai dealerships.
They're working on the 570+hp Ioniq...
That's a FCEV test vehicle with fancy exterior, not a production car. It's not even a prototype. I don't see how that's relevant here.
Yes, it looks incredible but that's not the point of the vehicle. Everyone's making moves now. I don't remember anyone saying "they're making moves" when Subaru...
Current gen Civic will be refreshed in about three years. This "leak" probably only applies to pre-refresh CTR.
I just don't think they'll end the 11th gen CTR production like that after only three years.
It's way too early to set production plans for the refreshed CTR anyway.
So 546 for three...
I've owned a CTR and a Veloster N. I loved both cars and I miss them both.
N cars are not even close to what some of you might have experienced with older Hyundais.
But no, Hyundai is not the "New Honda" and Albert Biermann is not Tony Stark level genius.
They make good cars. Nothing more...
Honda probably thought the CVT would work better for mass production passenger cars.
Auto Si will naturally come with the same CVT that's in the Integra. There's no need to develop new DCT for one car.
But I agree. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. I mean, they'd need to go auto when...
Auto Type R is just a rumor for now. Maybe it's true, who knows? But there's no official confirmation yet.
I don't think the Si will be getting AT option tho. It's all about driving experience so imo it will be the last Honda to come with 6MT.
Integra's CVT should work with the Si without too...
They've been doing limited edition 2 seater thing since FN2 era.
Everyone knew they'd do it again for the 3rd gen.
I think Honda and Seat really deserve more respect for running their cars "stock."
But there are MANY automakers in Europe and they sometimes do things very...
I don't see anything wrong with how Megane RS set the record. If anything, that car was "stock" and those who are rich/weird enough could get the exact spec. You couldn't do that with the record setting type-R, although that's undoubtedly much closer to regular spec model.
You see, Renault...
Actually there's whole class of 300hp FWD hot hatches in other markets.
VW has GTI Clubsport, Cupra has Leon, Renault of course has Megane R.S. Trophy.
Unfortunately CTR is the only one we get here in North America, but it's not the only FWD track monster.
These cars obviously can't do donuts...