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I have the CDM “Turbo” decals on the side skirts of my 10th. https://www.heeltoeauto.com/emblems-badges/honda-genuine-side-rear-turbo-decal-white-2016-honda-civic-75773-tbc-c11zb-hac.75773-tbc-c11zb.html No VTEC of course. If they are black you could put them there (depending on color of the...

Eman is tearing one down.

If it isn’t your standard testing procedure then you should not put it out or you should be clear about the conditions. I’m not shilling for Honda or the 11th, but I work in publishing and I think that is irresponsible editing.

If all we have are the MT numbers then consider that they were at the same press launch as everyone else. No prepped surface. Not even necessarily a flat surface. Just standard tarmac. Probably no real opportunity to do multiple launches and attempt different RPM clutch dumps. They at best took...

The dealers have to order them that way, or be allocated. Probably dealers in the snow belt don’t opt for summer tires because most customers would prefer all-season. Even in the southeast, most of the Si on dealer lots have AS tires.

That’s already what a CivicX does on a 93 tune.

The MT piece is about as fair as it is going to get. I know it is a fine car because I have a CivicX and it is a fine car that I still enjoy every time I drive it. I just see no compelling reason to move into the new one. That’s the disappointing part. But if you don’t have one, or have high...

195 WHP would be about 215 crank so the dyno sheets are probably within the margin or error and/or variation between engines. The CivicX Si tended to come in 185-190 WHP stock fwiw. Where are you seeing trap speeds for CivicXI?

In the past Hondata numbers have been closer to crank, so possible it is 200 to the wheels. If that is the case I have no idea why Honda would not bump the numbers in the marketing. Or why the base car would come in so much lower. Will be curious to see sheets from some others on this.

Are they trying to say 220 wheel? Yeah I’ll wait for some other dyno sheets before I believe Honda underrated the car by 40 crank horsepower. That would be a real stroke of marketing genius. The Hondata dyno is known to be … um, generous and Doug is a hype man.

Who are you gonna believe, this guys butt dyno or the guy with the actual dyno? The world may never know.

Like it in CBP.

Looks good. Congrats.

These dudes and their coupons.

That’s a disappointing number. No way to get around it. Cause for concern for the Si too. Tuning a car to make it maybe as fast as the old car was stock isn’t great. Fine for most drivers who never rev beyond 3k and are cross shopping a Corolla, I guess.

Exactly what I thought. The TD03 we were promised long ago. Some more overhead in the motor. Nope and nope.

2017 Si: 205 2022 Si: 200 2017 GTI: 210 (S); 220 (Sport, SE, Autobahn) 2022 GTI: 242 2017 BRZ/86: 200 (AT); 205 (MT) 2022 BRZ/86: 228 2017 Elantra GT: 201 2022 Elantra N Line: 201 (congratulations, you’re Hyundai) 2017 Veloster Turbo: 201 2022 Veloster Turbo: doesn’t exist because even...

Yeah, the torques the same too …

I’m sorely disappointed with this offering but not for the styling. I’d say I’m agnostic on both the X and XI Civic. Really everything in this class. Certainly in stock form. The last thing I really liked, aesthetically, was the Focus RS and that hardly counts. This isn’t a segment for beautiful...