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since Porsche is bringing back NA mild hybrid, I wonder if other manufacturers will follow such as future civic type r. I honestly feels more comfortable on the track and reliable with a NA motor+ electric than a turbo motor especially with the ctr overheating issue

Great discussion. I guess my question is… assuming all FL5 are for sale at MSRP, will they be all sold out ? I myself, one, was going to pull the trigger at MSRP last year but my finance situation took a turn where even if a dealer offer me at msrp I cannot buy. Yes, sucks. I have the money...

Dam…. Now I want a 2025 model.

People are hurting for money. Credit card debt through the roof. Two of my friends recently asked me to lend money. I am mostly reading the situation from my experience and not from the online “data”.

I am in the process on buying a car. Just be nice and respectful. I like to put them on the spot instead of the other way around. “Thanks for the respond. Here is my offer and I want to earn your business. “.

Interesting and I agree. I love to learn their tactics in psychological terms. I actually enjoy playing that game so I go in knowing that they feel they had me trapped. Sometimes it’s better to play stupid and walk around their traps instead of calling them out on their tactics. Part of the fun...

Well. I don’t know. Some people got the FL5 for 20k mark up. FL5 > RS3

RS3 > FL5

Let me know if there is a 2-2.5k white one 😍

My friend has a dealer in SoCal 4k over. Cw. Need to finance with honda. Pm me if interested.

I agree that the dealer still have leverage on a 5k adm, but not a 20k adm about 6 months ago. The key is the trend, and the trend is clearly declining in dealer mark up. FYI, I have not bough my car yet so you can say I am bias, but I am just looking at the trend and making my prediction.

That is more power to you who is able to swing the extra cash for immediate enjoyment. Some people like to exercise delay gratification, and there is nothing wrong with either as long as you can "afford" it. Even though it might not worth my time searching for the best deal, I enjoy the...

Speaking of civic si. Does anyone here have both si and type r? Or plan to have both. I am getting a type r but I really want a si for daily commute. Maybe I am doing it wrong and just have the type r to daily. I honestly love both the si and type r. Also is there a tracker for si...

Wait... so FL5s are sitting with only a 5k mark up?? That's good news?

Didn’t someone just mentioned one guy on the list cannot get approved for a loan so there are two ctr available at that dealer? He is a ctr buyer.

I am rooting for Tesla for many reasons. One is to destroy all other dealerships. However, one of my friend works for Mercedes as sales and he reached out recently to see if I have any jobs I can connect him with. He sees the writing on the board and thinking ahead.

Going to wait for 24s. Kobe the GOAT.

Interesting. Thanks. Seems like they are building them faster than expected.

Does that mean there are around 8587 made so far world wide?

Envy all the new owners. Funny that I might still be on the fence if it’s offer to me at msrp, this is when I realized maybe I cannot afford the car. 😭😭 $50k …….