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Well, wait a minute. Let's discuss some more about this. The engine in the K20 isn't the same as the FK8. So they don't have the same design flow. Also, there are many other cars with VVT that don't do any good once high boost and high lb/min turbos get introduced into the mix. Take the...

Understood but the car's resale value shouldn't warrant a new one of the same kind right? I paid $43 for mine and it has a lot of dealer options on it. I've had mine for 2yrs now and don't plan on trading it in even if they gave me exactly what I paid for it. What would the difference be such...

Explain why it's bullshit on a technical level. VTEC is used to make the flow of the engine at a given point in time be at it's maximum efficiency. Since we are already well above 100% efficiency with a turbo car, valve overlap doesn't make much of a difference since the valves will get plenty...

Why would you buy a new car only to sell it months later for the next iteration? There is no way people can keep up with getting the latest and greatest every year. Might as well lease.

That may be true, but you have past experience with 10th gen Si. That clutch was weak also. It's not a stretch to assume the bedding in process won't make a big difference.

I owned the 2019 Si and .traded it in after just 2 months. I didn't test the system but Hondata just staded that the clutch was slipping with those whp levels.

That clutch is very weak. I couldn't stand it because with just a little power, it needed to be changed. The TypeR's clutch is way better. It still doesn't slip even after 345whp/374wtq (dynojet).

It would be nice to do 10th gen comparison mod-for-mod in your charts. I'd like to see what you guys got with the 10th gen on 93oct with just a tune.

Yea, it looks like they just adjusted the power curve in the tune. Spool is faster but a faster spool only means more torque sooner than previous. However, 10th gen's drivability should feel more "punchy" during regular sprints. On 11th gen, the pull to redline will actually feel better...

I don't understand your question.

It's 220hp on wheel hub dyno and not roller dyno. I'm skeptical of the actual whp stock. Time will tell. In any case, it's still way less powerful than the TypeR 10th gen.

Doesn't the TypeR just have exhaust VTEC as well? If it never engages, can't you tune that so that it does? There is several uses for exhaust side VTEC. The intake is useless since you have the turbo to force enough air into the engine.

Agree with this. I bought a 2019 Si and it became pretty punchy once I tuned it, put on a FMIC, intake, E-85, and downpipe. Even then it still was only 224whp. It just wasn't enough power for me so I traded it in for the TypeR.

Yes, it's about the CR-V but that tells me that Honda is indeed working on the hybrid. All of the cars will use some/all of the new tech.

Hybrids aren't a proven thing yet in the automotive world. We have guinea pigs right now. Most people want to stick to the pure breed tech. Also, we spent a lot of money on our cars this gen. We are resistant to change and loss of money. The case would have to be very compelling and right...

This all seems to verify that my dealer was right about the future of the TypeR. 11th gen will be a hybrid and 2020 will be a half year production, then no more TypeR.

Understood.

All, I'm trying to find what everyone is talking about when they say they downloaded the "+6/+9" maps. When I create a new calibration I don't see anything on the possible options that describe a +6psi map. What option should I choose? -M