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Anyone own both a FL5 and DE5

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Curious if anyone on here owns both and which they prefer, and the decision to have both? Am just curious as it seems the ITS is a lot rarer than the FL5, which makes sense since ITS is just a North America product.
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There have been folks who have owned both, but sequentially, not simultaneously.

I see absolutely zero reason to own both... but then again at least one dude that posts regularly on here has two CTRs, and didn't some guy buy 4 S2000s? People with money do weird shit. For common people with common sense, having two manual 4 door cars on summer tires makes zero sense, unless it's a husband and wife thing. I could see that as a possibility; a CTR and an ITS in the same household. Maybe someone like that exists out there.

To your point though the ITS will be much more rare, probably both here in the states and obviously globally. 1.5 less model years (I think my math is right...), and possibly smaller overall volume. I think some of the quotes out of press releases suggested the volume is about the same for the two cars but the FL5 got a head start, so there will be more of them.

That doesn't mean the ITS is any better than the CTR, or vice versa. They're essentially the same car, just enough differences to make me personally glad they both exist, as I obviously prefer the Integra. There is written evidence of me saying I wanted a CTR too though, so really it all just comes down to preference.
 

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There have been folks who have owned both, but sequentially, not simultaneously.

I see absolutely zero reason to own both... but then again at least one dude that posts regularly on here has two CTRs, and didn't some guy buy 4 S2000s?
Guy must be popular on the internet/forums. Back in the day I remember seeing his post on getting each color of the CR.
 

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I guess I can see a two person family that doesn't need AWD where they live with an FL5 and a DE5.
 

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I traded my DE5 for the FL5, others (maybe more) have traded FL5's for DE5's, and at least one traded a FL5 for a DE5 that was then traded to get back to a FL5. You can't go wrong with either one, unless you overpay for either one.

It's TBD which will be rarer or more sought after long-term, but you'll only find the DE5 in North America for now and it's likely a smaller number will be made overall. As others have suggested, they're very similar cars, so owning one of each for personal use would seem a little redundant.
 


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I traded my DE5 for the FL5, others (maybe more) have traded FL5's for DE5's, and at least one traded a FL5 for a DE5 that was then traded to get back to a FL5. You can't go wrong with either one, unless you overpay for either one.

It's TBD which will be rarer or more sought after long-term, but you'll only find the DE5 in North America for now and it's likely a smaller number will be made overall. As others have suggested, they're very similar cars, so owning one of each for personal use would seem a little redundant.
I know it's not your main point but I wanted to pick at something you said -- I don't quite get this obsession in the community about how sought after either car will be down the road, or which one will hold their value better.

Personally, I got the ITS because it's what I wanted to right now. I wanted a fun, somewhat reliable car with a manual gearbox and still fit two carseats in the back. I have no intentions of selling this car in the near future given manual gearboxes are getting rarer in new cars. But even so, it doesn't make enough of a material impact on my decision.
 

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I know it's not your main point but I wanted to pick at something you said -- I don't quite get this obsession in the community about how sought after either car will be down the road, or which one will hold their value better.

Personally, I got the ITS because it's what I wanted to right now. I wanted a fun, somewhat reliable car with a manual gearbox and still fit two carseats in the back. I have no intentions of selling this car in the near future given manual gearboxes are getting rarer in new cars. But even so, it doesn't make enough of a material impact on my decision.
It's not something that matters to me, personally, but the OP had touched on rarity and it seemed like others had weighed in on it as well. 🤷‍♂️
 

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I drove both but only own one... the FL5. The ITS I drove only had 7 miles on it and we went for about a 10 mile loop. The dealer kept telling me to put my foot into it, so I did. It was quick but so tight I was hoping I wouldn't blow it up. The tight as a drum Acura comparison to the broken in type R is unfair because it just didn't feel as quick. The ITS suspension on full soft IMO is still fairly stiff, but slightly smoother than the Civic.

I'd be happy with either but for now, even if the ITS was the same price as the CTR, I would still pick the CTR because to me it looks smoother and more aggressive, and that's enough for me. The only thing I'd change is add a leather /same color for all seats option, the res delete and more insulation to the CTR.
 
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I know it's not your main point but I wanted to pick at something you said -- I don't quite get this obsession in the community about how sought after either car will be down the road, or which one will hold their value better.

Personally, I got the ITS because it's what I wanted to right now. I wanted a fun, somewhat reliable car with a manual gearbox and still fit two carseats in the back. I have no intentions of selling this car in the near future given manual gearboxes are getting rarer in new cars. But even so, it doesn't make enough of a material impact on my decision.
You would not have a good time on Porsche forums.
 

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I know it's not your main point but I wanted to pick at something you said -- I don't quite get this obsession in the community about how sought after either car will be down the road, or which one will hold their value better.

Personally, I got the ITS because it's what I wanted to right now. I wanted a fun, somewhat reliable car with a manual gearbox and still fit two carseats in the back. I have no intentions of selling this car in the near future given manual gearboxes are getting rarer in new cars. But even so, it doesn't make enough of a material impact on my decision.
I’m with you on the rarity or uniqueness. Just with about everything that I’m into, let it be watches, sneakers, even alcohol, the marketing around is about value, specialty, one of a kind. I guess that’s what a lot of consumers think about no matter what the product is.
 

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Thats awesome @trajectory009, congrats! Whats your impression of both and how would you describe the driving and experience from an owners point of view. Any regrets from each one?
I have modded both heavily (ITS 486whp with RV6 and Hondata fuel on e30) and CTR similar mods with Kuro turbo to pick up more hp in the 3-5k band.

I enjoy both vehicles but as of today, enjoy the ITS with the mods completed (FL5 cluster, carpet and forged wheels) a bit more as a daily driver. The FL5 is still a fantastic ride and my overall impression may change once Drob finishes the tune next month.
 

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I have modded both heavily (ITS 486whp with RV6 and Hondata fuel on e30) and CTR similar mods with Kuro turbo to pick up more hp in the 3-5k band.

I enjoy both vehicles but as of today, enjoy the ITS with the mods completed (FL5 cluster, carpet and forged wheels) a bit more as a daily driver. The FL5 is still a fantastic ride and my overall impression may change once Drob finishes the tune next month.
Did you work out all the kinks with the FL5 cluster?
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