Edmunds Performance Car Challenge (CTR vs. Mustang GT vs. GR Corolla vs. Elantra N)

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[TurboZed-R]

FL5 takes the crown... again. Waiting for N fan boys to give an excuse on why the N is better.

 

[VarmintCong]

I’m just glad there’s 4 cars in this competition.

 

[MooMoo]

FL5 takes the crown... again. Waiting for N fan boys to give an excuse on why the N is better.

the CTR vs N thing is so played out and it goes both ways. The N is fantastic for the price, its not as good, its not as nice, its ugly but its an excellent car for 10k less than the R and it doesn’t overheat at the track so at the end of the day, is it a better track car? I would always pick the R over and I did but if I only had 35k to spend and I did not mind how ugly it looks its an excellent choice

 

[TurboZed-R]

the CTR vs N thing is so played out and it goes both ways. The N is fantastic for the price, its not as good, its not as nice, its ugly but its an excellent car for 10k less than the R and it doesn’t overheat at the track so at the end of the day, is it a better track car? I would always pick the R over and I did but if I only had 35k to spend and I did not mind how ugly it looks its an excellent choice

I would argue people buying an R are expecting Porsche or AMG performance for 48k, where in reality performance is on par for sub 50k. I also think R guys are better drivers and pushing their cars WAY harder than N drivers. If we had an oil cooler that was double the size I think overheating would be much better.

 

[MooMoo]

I think the cooling issues go beyond just a bigger oil cooler, so much that no one has really figured it out and people still throwing parts at it. I think its just engine design making it more difficult. It will be figured out and really for 99% of us its fine the way it is currently, unless its a very hot day, then probably not hard to overheat ( few track days i have done was in the low 80s and with my skill level I have not overheated it yet but temps were highish so I can see it happening).
The type R are better drivers and push more I dunno, I have no data on that but based on what I see around there is a lot of garage queen type Rs, dunno what happens with the N people.

Lets be honest if someone wants performance under 50k then a camaro ss 1LE is the answer every time. However its a bunker in there, 4 door car with performance you are limited and nothing really high performance at this price but I we agree that for what you get at 45k is great, I know a lot say the type R is expensive but i think you get a lot of good stuff for this price, I dont think its overpriced at all

 

[Clark_Kent]

the CTR vs N thing is so played out and it goes both ways. The N is fantastic for the price, its not as good, its not as nice, its ugly but its an excellent car for 10k less than the R and it doesn’t overheat at the track so at the end of the day, is it a better track car? I would always pick the R over and I did but if I only had 35k to spend and I did not mind how ugly it looks its an excellent choice

I have my doubts, but I wouldn't plant a flag that a stock FL5 will easily overheat on track. Those fellas from New Zealand were up on this before anyone else, publicly anyway. I don't track my FL5 so the status of whether the car overheats and under which conditions doesn't really matter to me.

 

[realtorhoff]

the CTR vs N thing is so played out and it goes both ways. The N is fantastic for the price, its not as good, its not as nice, its ugly but its an excellent car for 10k less than the R and it doesn’t overheat at the track so at the end of the day, is it a better track car? I would always pick the R over and I did but if I only had 35k to spend and I did not mind how ugly it looks its an excellent choice

Well said. It's objectively ugly and you have to say you drive a Hyundai. Having said that....hell of a car for the price. I looked at one and just couldn't live with the poor interior quality and materials.

 

[MooMoo]

I have my doubts, but I wouldn't plant a flag that a stock FL5 will easily overheat on track. Those fellas from New Zealand were up on this before anyone else, publicly anyway. I don't track my FL5 so the status of whether the car overheats and under which conditions doesn't really matter to me.

I think people have and its been discussed/on video. That said I think it happens way less than people talk about it. I think you either have to be a very fast driver or be in really hot conditions. I haven’t overheated it but just few colder days, however I did do 10 minutes on a 90 degree day, autocross (not cones but small track) and the oil certainly was pretty hot. At least its not as bad as the gr corollas rear diff.

 

[RickyJeezus]

FL5 takes the crown... again. Waiting for N fan boys to give an excuse on why the N is better.

I think the only advantage the N has is the DCT, that would be the only way I would get one (dct also comes with sunroof I think) which at that point would compete with a GTI. I think people who want a manual “fun” car but don’t want to pay Type R prices should really only look at an SI or 86/brz

 

[MooMoo]

I think the only advantage the N has is the DCT, that would be the only way I would get one (dct also comes with sunroof I think) which at that point would compete with a GTI. I think people who want a manual “fun” car but don’t want to pay Type R prices should really only look at an SI or 86/brz

disagree because they are totally different cars. 4 door with proper rear seats vs a small 2 door car. But yes if I did not need or want the extra space the 86/brz will be a better and more fun car (but that could even be said about comparing it to an R)

 

[Shingo Shoji]

FL5 takes the crown... again. Waiting for N fan boys to give an excuse on why the N is better.

Not saying I'm not glad the N exists. I am. It's a sweet car and hits an amazing price point.

But.....

Every time I see one, the driver has a scowl on his face. Literally every time. I don't think the ownership experience is a happy one.

 

[Fanatic]

Not saying I'm not glad the N exists. I am. It's a sweet car and hits an amazing price point.

But.....

Every time I see one, the driver has a scowl on his face. Literally every time. I don't think the ownership experience is a happy one.

Honda Odyssey owners seem to be the happiest folks especially after seeking inspiration from latest Deadpool & Wolverine movie. Lol.

 

[Shingo Shoji]

Honda Odyssey owners seem to be the happiest folks especially after seeking inspiration from latest Deadpool & Wolverine movie. Lol.

Haha. I secretly want a decked out Odyssey for road trips.

To be fair, revisiting my earlier comment - I probably don’t have a smile on my face when I’m driving the CTR on a rough road when all I can hear is TYRE ROAAAAAR

 

[NoelPR]

FL5 takes the crown... again. Waiting for N fan boys to give an excuse on why the N is better.

Just browse the comments.

But but but is 15k cheaper that must make it a winner.

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