FK8 vs FL5 track times?

[ElDuder]

Has anyone seen comparisons of FK8 and FL5 track times? All I have seen is a marginally better time for the FL5 over the FK8 LE at Suzuka and the FK8 performing slightly better on a different track.

Keiichi Tsuchiya(DK) drove both cars at Sodegaura Forest Raceway. The FK8 ran 1:16.33 and the FL5 1:16:99.

FK8:


FL5:

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[Pierito]

Don't expect a drastic difference. A slight power bump, a little more tire, a little more weight.

It should be faster, but close.

 

[Daftmick74]

It would be interested to compare fk8 and fl5 with same tyres. FK8 was delivered with continental, and Fl5 with Michelin. And tyres can make a huge difference on a lap time.

 

[ElDuder]

Has anyone seen comparisons of FK8 and FL5 track times? All I have seen is a marginally better time for the FL5 over the FK8 LE at Suzuka and the FK8 performing slightly better on a different track.

Don't expect a drastic difference. A slight power bump, a little more tire, a little more weight.

It should be faster, but close.

Honestly, I believe it will vary depending on track. I can’t find the video but a Honda driver ran a track a half second slower in the FL5 compared to the FK8.

 

[Doublestack00]

I bet it's the same or slower as last gen or they'd be posting it all over for attention.

 

[ElDuder]

I bet it's the same or slower as last gen or they'd be posting it all over for attention.

I’ve been curious about this as well. Next to nothing about performance numbers. I found videos of both cars on the same track with the same driver. Look at my original post.

 

[ctrc2022]

i read somewhere that they are waiting for spring for better weather to get their times, not sure if true and if they had already finished tuning the car by the end of the summer.

 

[ElDuder]

i read somewhere that they are waiting for spring for better weather to get their times, not sure if true and if they had already finished tuning the car by the end of the summer.

That would make sense. I can’t wait to see. I managed to find a post from CivicX showing videos of the same driving on the same track running a little slower in the FL5. I updated my original post if you’re curious.

 

[007]

I’m a little concerned that the car has been out for months now (in Japan) and we’ve seen no meaningful comparisons. Not even by Honda themselves. Why aren’t there more direct comparisons and no record attempts at the ring?

 

[TimeRacer]

I’m a little concerned that the car has been out for months now (in Japan) and we’ve seen no meaningful comparisons. Not even by Honda themselves. Why aren’t there more direct comparisons and no record attempts at the ring?

Because of the babies who will cry about it. Essentially the car will have to beat out the Megane and/or the RS3 or they'll have a fit. It's crushed FWD or compact record or the car is trash for them. They're not looking for a simple improvement over the FK8 and marketing knows it. [Needless to say though the record is entirely for marketing as they're constantly making improvements to the ring every season in part due to how many laps are driven on it due to it being a public track so it's constantly variable track conditions and difficulty and the 'official' start/stop locations have moved a few times] All in all, the new car will likely be a few tenths faster generally... you can't compare a few test laps by someone who's just hopping in as legitimate best possible lap times. Minimum you need to start with similar 'ideal' conditions before even driving the car out of the pit before calling it a true hero lap.

 

[taiso0019]

Couldn't care less about 'Ring times to be honest. Will never get a clean lap of the full course as a normal enthusiast anyway. More interested in overall cooling performance and consistency in shorter circuits.

 

[kopite44]

It's a pity Sabine isn't around to take the FL5 for a spin around the Ring.

 

[Daftmick74]

On this website, you can compare FL5 and FK8.
Honda Civic Type R vs Honda Civic Type R 2022 -> Duel 670010556 (zeperfs.com)
There isn't a lot of time for the FL5 for the moment, but that will change in the coming weeks.

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