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Sound is objective, but I can think of quite a few good sounding 4 cylinder engines, especially NA. Having to pick between performance and sound is silly. Of course people want performance, but when it’s obvious that there can be good sound and performance, most people would want both. I...

Darn, that’s a lot farther out than I’d like to hear. I wonder if that will be the same for NA?

…as far as using cars to store power… Do you know how much it costs to hook up a bypass in a residential home?

I said it isn’t much better, that’s my opinion and not misinformation. You didn’t mention anything about all the batteries that are being produced, what it takes to produce them, what byproducts come from their manufacture, what happens when they wreck and spill, where they are disposed of...

Not to mention, the environment isn’t much better off electric. Once you factor all the heavy metal factories pumping out toxic batteries, and all their byproducts, and let’s not forget where the power comes from, in most places, to charge up that EV.

Well 2 ways of looking at it, either it’s complete BS, in which case what’s new, or it’s because they know something.

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Not that this means anything, but I spoke with one of my dealers today and they feel confident that Sept 1, they will be given their VIN for allocations. I take anything anyone says with a grain of salt, but at least it’s something to hope for.

Yeah and I’ve heard everything from some saying by the end of September, to dealers saying by next spring.

At this point, I’m just hopeful they start showing up before December.

Pretty much. If people can find any semblance of anything that looks remotely similar to anything else, then it’s basically that car.

I love all the people that immediately try and find any similarity with another car, so they can point it all out to us. Thank you.

Yeah I swapped a GT350 wheel on my Mustang GT and then constantly regretted it. No matter how hard you try, I even wore gloves… still got all funky

I think it’s good we don’t get Alcantara here in the US.

As if any of this really matters. Besides, with one Phearable tune, this thing will make a good deal more power anyway…for those concerned that it won’t be fast enough.

I get sound systems or power outputs, etc but I wonder why everyone else gets Alcantara shift boot/steering wheel? Tbh I’m not that sad if we get leather, as it will stand up to time better, but still wonder why?

Is a human body a car? What, are we teaching kindergarten? You believe what you want.

Dude, we can play word games all day, but in context to what he said, most would take that as an overarching definition of the entire power plant. So if I generally said, it’s got the exact same specs as the last engine, I wouldn’t just assume he meant only the long block.

Yeah, I mean everything at this point, is pretty much all speculation, but it is nice when different sources have information that seems to align, even if only a little. I would imagine within the next 4-6 weeks we will start to know a lot more.

Thanks for the reply. And this is why, every time someone posts a comment on here, suggesting their dealer has the inside track, I don’t believe it. As you said, when real concrete info drops, we will more than likely know it here first. I do like that the next shipment of Civics, look to be...