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    ^^ Hard to speculate on what exactly is happening The dealer I am working with said they had also heard the 546 number. I am inclined to believe that this is a real thing. There was some confusion as to exactly how many cars they were getting, or when. I think they were given some general...
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    That sounds like a good plan. I was almost thinking about getting a motorbike as well if this completely falls through. I suppose I will inquire with Toyota about the manual Supra while I am at it
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    I got a follow up e-mail from my dealer... apparently there may have people who had ordered the last generation and had still not got it yet that would go in front of me on the list. So yeah... not looking very good
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    I thought the LE was all online orders?
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    My dealer is getting 1.... and I am at the top. However, they might not get it in the first year. Man, I really wish this wasn't limited production. Things are already complicated enough trying to get one of these.
  6. Raiti's Ride preview of the 2023 Civic Type R prototype (close-up walkaround)

    Comfort is subjective and difficulty to quantify, which is precisely why I selected a quote from a journalist. It was a sample, one of hundreds, of how journalists frequently credit active dampers for increased comfort. Or are you taking issue with that and saying that active dampers that can...
  7. Raiti's Ride preview of the 2023 Civic Type R prototype (close-up walkaround)

    Honestly, you don't need to resort to personal attacks because somebody disagrees with you. I could be a 16 year old kid, or I could be an engineer with an extensive background in racing. Same goes for most of the people on this forum. To start telling people they don't understand things...
  8. Raiti's Ride preview of the 2023 Civic Type R prototype (close-up walkaround)

    I am kind of expecting it will play out like this. It would be such a weird marketing choice for them to have released that promo video last month and then not set a record. I also get that you continually think that Honda is not obsessed ;) At least it is easy to resolve; if they release a...
  9. Raiti's Ride preview of the 2023 Civic Type R prototype (close-up walkaround)

    I agree, I think 350 is far too optimistic I am expecting to see 330~335 hp and only slight increase in torque (like maybe 2 to 5 ft-lbs). My working theory is that back in October when they went to the Ring, they were running only about 310~315 and they failed to break the record. I think...
  10. 2023 Civic Type R Full Reveal Coming July 20!

    ^^ I thought the Yaris was pretty handsome, the Corolla isn't doing it for me though. The GR Corolla interior looks cheap and economical with a lot of hard plastics. Despite that, I bet they price it right up there with the Type-R. It does kind of follows the Subaru mantra of being a cheap...
  11. Type R owner age?

    Just turned 40 and sitting on the waitlist for a 2023 Despite being an incredible performance vehicle; this is a 4 door, reliable, comfortable, economical car with loads of safety features and flexible space. Plus it is half the price of something like an M3. The kid in me wants a Cayman GTS...
  12. Type R Record at the Ring?

    I think if they were able to do it without adding much more power, it will be pretty tight. Probably 7:38 give or take a second. With that said, I honestly think the limiting factor for the Type-R at the Ring is lack of power in the straights. My gut feeling is they couldn't pull of a new...
  13. Late Development Speculation

    Guess they wanted it after all, haha Kind of funny, this is exactly what I predicted speculated would happen originally: To pull this off they would have had to add horsepower, so it wouldn't surprise me if we see numbers between 330 to 350 whenever they get around to actually launching this...
  14. New CTR vs '21 CTR LE

    I think it is hard to speculate on this. It seems logical that they will build out the midrange a bit, but honestly who knows what they have up their sleeve. Yeah the GrC showed up in a few obscure teasers in the late fall of last year... now suddenly they are fully launched, and we are still...
  15. Late Development Speculation

    Yeah they were really manhandling it, haha. Those guys have probably driven that track so many times at this point they know all the tricks to pick up time. I've had a few laps like that in the past, walking the feverish balance between traction and peril. Not at those kind of speeds though...
  16. Late Development Speculation

    Yeah honestly if I had to bet, I would bet on almost no more power for this one. Honda has a solid track record of holding back horsepower, so not a lot of hope there. The video of them at Suzuka also shows the car carrying some very impressive speeds thru the corners, and that is probably...
  17. Late Development Speculation

    Caution, the following is pure speculation and should not be taken too seriously ;) I think there is some drama going on at Honda. They originally wanted the LE to be the ultimate track weapon, and the new Civic Type-R was supposed to slide in just under the LE, but still above the old...
  18. All New 2023 Civic Type R Sets New Suzuka Circuit Lap Record! 🏁

    This When I originally ordered my Audi DD, I was able to delete the panorama sunroof (and TMPS). I've never to this day come across another one that doesn't have one. The glass and mechanism weigh 104 kg (~230lbs), all well above the centre of gravity. It has noticeable improvements in...
  19. All New 2023 Civic Type R Sets New Suzuka Circuit Lap Record! 🏁

    If I am being honest, I am after the Type-R mostly because it is has one of the best manual transmissions you can get. Won't be long before they don't exist, so I just want to get something to savor while the world changes over to EV. It really came down to the Type-R, Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0...
  20. 2023 Civic Type R Waitlist / Deposit / Reservations List - Check in here!

    Checked with my dealer recently, still at the front of the line, but they are still not taking deposits yet. Is is a wild car for sure. I think the Corolla GR is going to be more like the Focus RS. Kind of a wilily ride, but really more geared towards casual fun than being serious. If that is...




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