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uhm are we watching the same thing? cause auto auctions have been failing to catch bids. a 2019 Golf R was going for nearly 45k at used prices, now its going for 36k just a few months later.

pretty sure they don't have to ablity to see cars at ports, only other dealers. Honestly most of what the stealership says is hot air. Trust me when I say, we know about the car way more than some salesman does.

its 44k in the states. The car bubble just popped. I think if you wait another 6 months you should start finding cars under sticker. Carmax earnings came out yesterday and it was dismal and so was their guidance. This is just he start of the recession, we'll be knee deep in it next summer.

No hate. Ive seen more than a few time attack show cars that will never see the track.

So basically a car version of a jeep modded out for rock climbing parked at the mall looking pristine. Lol

does that retain adjustable damping? Unless you'll be doing alot of track work, I'd go springs.

yes they sat in ports for months because for VW to allow every dealer had to have least one before going on sale.

Elantra does not look good at all design wise. Overstyled and it already looks aged to me. The refreshed i30n is just about a perfect hothatch.

We dont get any cool foreign cool cars. We do get dozen flavors of chargers and mustangs.

There are double digit up ticks on repos, cars are not getting sold at auctions and interest rates are spiking on all loans. Banks will start tightening standards, I just don't see them loaning 120% value of the car.

wouldn't even bother looking for one in Cali. Go to some obscure small town in a fly over state.

probably not the first year. Better luck next summer fall when we're in the mist of one of the biggest financial slow downs.

1le Camaro can be had for under 40k new and murder it on a strip or the track.

I'll add, my GTI was 22k and with a 600dollar mod it'll walk a FL5 ;)

since someone brought up how type r is faster than cars twice its price. CT4 Blackwing can be had for about the price of a FL5 with a markup and faster cars 3 times its price.

Granted however ugly it is. X5m would destroy most sports cars

pretty sure it matters, if MDX and TLX Type S is their best performance, I dont expect much.

Type S won't get the R bits like wider fenders or dual axis suspension. Head of Type S even said its more for street and the Type R is designed for the track.

I always wonder whos smart idea to spend the money build a different N on a awkward 3 door when they already had a i30n they could have sold as a Elantra GTN. It really could have been a hit and took some GTI market share. Veloster was fun as hell and price just right but just the 3 door and...

I’d love a i30n. I think the refresh looks way better than the Elantra. Might even take it over the Type R if the price was same as the Elantra. Don'tcare about laptimes, whats more engaging to drive.