https://www.motor1.com/news/682680/honda-civic-type-r-moose-test/
Given the FL5 has more weight, a longer wheelbase and wider tyres than the FK8 it shouldn't come as any surprise that in the moose test the FL5 managed 74km/h while the pre facelift FK8 (2017) did it at 78km/h.
On a flowing...
They really have outdone themselves with each iteration from the original FK8 to the facelift to the LE to the FL5. Improvements in small areas that you didn't even think needed work.
Cup 2s, forged wheels, recalibrate the ADS and adding lightness are a given. Not sure if a power jump would...
As someone who's extensively tracked a Hyundai i30N hatch (and briefly run an Elantra N on a skidpan) it's good to see the brand get some love for what they're doing.
Definitely not as special as a Type R but 90% of one for 70% of the price (yep a "Kirkland" car). Plus it gets everything right...
Usually we in Australia get the raw end of this sort of thing but it seems we've lucked out. No doubt due to a combination of being RHD, our proximity to Japan and the fact that all sales are direct with Honda at MSRP (dealers are just agents for Honda).
Our sole dealer in a city of half a...
And I'm pretty sure you'll find the Cup 2s on the FL5 are the OEM Connect version which have a treadwear rating of 240 compared to 180 for the LE so even more impressive.
Although they were able to drop the suspension to Comfort mode and no doubt keep everything else dialled up, something you...
We've got a fairly large Hyundai N community in Australia with hundreds and hundreds of people doing track days. The thing is after nearly 5 years you just don't hear of engine problems with stock cars, even ones like mine that see the track regularly.
They definitely lack the extra engineering...
I'm still surprised Australia is getting 600-700 in our 2023 allocation.
Guess with Honda selling through an agency model they can set the price and how much profit they make directly. Plus perhaps being RHD and closer to Japan there are some other efficiencies.
The problem, as always, is that the FK8 provided such a great platform that working within what you can realistically do for a factory hot hatch and maintain regulatory compliance and warranty there just aren't massive gains to be made.
FK8 LE - Engineered as a relatively exclusive limited run...
Another vote for keep the LE if it's not a daily driver, but if it is then the FL5 would just get my vote.
There will hopefully be an FL5 LE but who knows what the chances are of getting a hold of one and how much they will cost.
On the nostalgia thing that @savagegeese mentions, I completely understand why someone who grew up driving/idolising the DC2 and EK9 Type Rs would see the FK8 and FL5 as not keeping true to the brand form or spirit.
However for someone like myself who moved from muscles cars in my 20s to WRXs...
Must admit I was very surprised as I expected to have my car on display with a customer car. And when I said demo the salesman made a point of saying it was a display model.
Also I assume it is owned by Honda Australia which would mean 80+ if every dealer got one but I suspect they might only...
Had a call from my local dealer in Canberra to let me know they should be getting a display FL5 in February as I offered to put my LE on display with it when it arrives.
Apparently they have 9 cars confirmed arriving in the first batch, likely March, but not sure how many beyond that.
I own a Hyundai i30N hatch and it's the same thing with it compared to my Type R. The N car is easily more fun as a chuckable daily driver or to share a track day with my son. The Type R is just a more clinical, precise and well honed driver's car.
The best way I can sum it up is if fun is the...
FYI these are the ones fitted to my LE. They're the R01 variant with a treadwear rating of 180.
I suspect the H0 Honda version of the Cup 2 Connect will have different compound to the normal Cup 2 Connect but probably the same 240 treadwear rating.
Given their sales target is only 900 for the base Civic that is a lot of Type Rs by comparison. Although my dealer alone has over 20 firm $1k deposits ready to go into the system next week so they're a chance of selling them all.
Wonder what impact, if any, being made in Japan has had on the...
The effects of which I expect would be slightly moderated compared to the FK8 LE given the longer wheelbase, wider track, wider tyres and extra weight.
Speaking to the Australia TCR driver who set the local lap records here back to back in a regular Type R and an LE he said the LE definitely...
If that number ends up being right given they only sold about 1500 FK8s over 5 model years this is a lot more than I was expecting.
I'm still guessing $75k on road. Would love to buy one but I don't want to sell an existing car so it is just too much to justify.