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Look, the issue here isn't about having a 'heated discussion'; it's about how you're blending subjectivity with objectivity as if they're the same. You can't just declare someone's opinion as wrong, especially when it's grounded in experience. Your staunch belief in dealerships flawlessly...

Cool your jets. What's with the rage? And this aversion to the lemon law? It's simple: it either does the job or it doesn't. It's certainly worth a shot. I never said he should ditch the car. The truth is, major fixes like engine or transmission swaps will never bring the car back to its...

My main concern with replacing the engine is that the car will never be the same again. Even if the car seems to work perfectly afterward (which is a big "if"), I would never fully trust a dealership to restore it to its original factory condition. Consider how many cars end up with minor...

Congrats on the Type R! Your experience really speaks to me, especially your thoughts on modern BMW M cars. I couldn't connect with my 2021 M2C either - it just felt too detached, which is exactly why I switched to a GR Yaris. It's much more engaging and fun, mainly because it's so much lighter...

FYI, https://www.motoringobsession.com/stock/civic-type-r now shows 1,990 cars. I've been following it closely and the numbers keep steadily increasing.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I plan to give my two cents after driving my GR Yaris and FL5 back to back in the near future. Apart from the drivetrain, the GRY and GRC are quite different cars.

Personally, I find that bashing people for their choice of car is even lamer. Criticizing someone because they drive a different brand, as if our allegiance must be exclusively to Honda, is absurd. The idea that we can't appreciate multiple brands is, in my opinion, the lamest thing ever. But as...

The key idea I'm trying to convey is that, based on my experiences, patience usually pays off. I'm firm on paying MSRP for the "standard" model. The longer I wait, the higher the chances of finding a car at MSRP. I'm aware that Limited Editions typically have a higher price tag, and I'm...

Oh, so you could care less and you could give a shit? Are you sure? Calm down, it's all in good fun. If folks want to pay ridiculous markups, nobody is stopping them.

What is with you bashing anyone who discusses cross-platform topics involving Honda? It's a forum; diverse and civil discussions are what make it interesting. How old are you again? Stop hating.

Clearly, there is some level of care about this topic, otherwise, a thread like this wouldn't have 3 pages worth of comments. The core discussion here revolves around the financial wisdom of paying ADM for a limited Civic. It's important to remember that this is a public forum, and opinions...

That’s because you had a GRC, which is and always will be an afterthought. A platform that’s 400 lbs heavier and shares virtually nothing with the GRY, aside from the engine and a few other bits.

Oh, thank goodness! I was waiting with bated breath for the official decree to mingle with the Honda elite. Your magnanimous permission is truly a blessing. May the Toyota gods forgive my daring cross-brand exploration and grant me safe passage in these uncharted Honda waters. And here I...

Ah, the classic 'go back to your own forum' retort - always the hallmark of a truly welcoming and open-minded community. Luckily, I can appreciate fine engineering across brands, even if it seems to threaten the delicate brand loyalty you might feel.

Let’s not get too carried away here. Following that line of thought to the extreme, one might as well spend recklessly on unaffordable luxuries with the rationale of 'you might die tomorrow.' For example, why not overload on loans, put down just 5% on a dream house and a Porsche, without...

I hold the complete opposite view. With age - and I'm 42, just to note - I've come to realize that rushing into car purchases has been among my poorest decisions. In hindsight, patience was always the better choice. Succumbing to the fear of missing out in buying cars was, frankly, an unwise...

What color? - That will affect the calculation. Since the MSRP is $45,890, you can calculate the markup thusly: OTD Price: $52,500 MSRP: $45,890 Mandatory Add-Ons: $2,100 Taxes: $3,300 TTL Fees: $1,200 To calculate the dealer's selling price before taxes and fees: Dealer’s Selling Price =...

Agreed. I've owned three cars equipped with Apple CarPlay (M2C, GRY, and Honda City, two of which I still own) and have never experienced any issues with CarPlay, let alone a pixelated screen. This seems to be a problem with the module and/or software that Honda uses now in the Civic.

If dealerships in Chicago are marking up prices by $3k, it likely indicates a sense of desperation. Just a few months ago, nearly all of them were adding markups of $10k or more.

In today's world, for better or worse, fun and engaging cars with low-volume manual transmissions are in high demand. This typically results in one of two scenarios: either the price of the car is significantly marked up, or it's completely sold out. It's hard to say which is more frustrating...