Does Map 1 on the Phearable 1.5R tune offer a meaningful difference over stock?

[Dan_E26]

Hey all,

I've been toying with the idea of throwing a KTuner on my car and using one of the big-name OTS tunes (Phearable 1.5R being the frontrunner). However, I don't have head studs or a more robust clutch installed yet so I'm not planning on cranking the boost up like crazy right away. Phearable claims Map 1 of the tune uses 18PSI which is peak factory boost (though I rarely hit it). My hope is that I can enjoy a little bit of extra pep without torching my clutch and engine with tons of extra boost

Can anyone confirm/deny that Map 1 feels any different than stock? Phearable themselves advertise the dyno numbers on Map 3, and I can't really find any anecdote online about Map 1 specifically

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[absolude]

Yes, there is a difference. I don't think the 23 PSI is going to do damage if used responsibly.
For me the reduced rev hang along with the start/stop delete made the tunes worth adding.
I'm basing this on my experience with my 10gen. hatch. I drove it on a 24 PSI tune with no problems and that car had the weaker rods.

 

[Dan_E26]

Yes, there is a difference. I don't think the 23 PSI is going to do damage if used responsibly.
For me the reduced rev hang along with the start/stop delete made the tunes worth adding.
I'm basing this on my experience with my 10gen. hatch. I drove it on a 24 PSI tune with no problems and that car had the weaker rods.

Can you elaborate a little on what was different about Map 1? Any extra power, did it hit boost faster, better/worse fuel economy, etc?

 

[Johaw]

I have stock head studs and clutch and run map 3 with no issues i dont abuse my car though i dont launch it or floor it ever havent had the clutch slip or any signs of head lift although i am installing the 27won GIN BB turbo soon so clutch and head studs will be done soon after.

 

[absolude]

Can you elaborate a little on what was different about Map 1? Any extra power, did it hit boost faster, better/worse fuel economy, etc?

Sorry, it's been a while since I used the Phearable tune. I thought map 1 for KTuner was 16 PSI.
I used map 2 for the most part.
Phearable tune is very linear and shifts are extremely smooth.
I think it actually hits the claimed PSI, unlike stock.
It drives like a completely different car.

 

[chopsuey34]

Hey all,

I've been toying with the idea of throwing a KTuner on my car and using one of the big-name OTS tunes (Phearable 1.5R being the frontrunner). However, I don't have head studs or a more robust clutch installed yet so I'm not planning on cranking the boost up like crazy right away. Phearable claims Map 1 of the tune uses 18PSI which is peak factory boost (though I rarely hit it). My hope is that I can enjoy a little bit of extra pep without torching my clutch and engine with tons of extra boost

Can anyone confirm/deny that Map 1 feels any different than stock? Phearable themselves advertise the dyno numbers on Map 3, and I can't really find any anecdote online about Map 1 specifically

I've been thinking about this question, too. I drive my Si aggressively and want to go full throttle a lot so I'd rather stay in Map 1 and utilize reduced rev hang. But then what's the point if I'm only staying at stock boost levels? Why would I tune and risk voiding the warranty?


Phearable 1.5R says Map 1 is 16psi per their website, where did you find that it says 18psi?




Here's a 10th gen CivicX resource:
https://www.civicx.com/forum/thread...100-stock-vs-phearable-stage-1-5.51979/page-3

 

[absolude]

Phearable 1.5R says Map 1 is 16psi per their website, where did you find that it says 18psi?

That's what I thought, 16 PSI valet mode.
Even so, Map 1 offers a nice response and is very drivable.

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