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  1. FL5 coming soon to a local showroom floor - Media cars are making their rounds

    This is just a local dealer pulling some foot traffic from people who want to see the car and not a national event. I doubt any new information will be released on this date. Just seeing your listed location, you've done your homework about contacting dealers! :D
  2. FL5 coming soon to a local showroom floor - Media cars are making their rounds

    Received an email from one of the dealers I've contacted. Seems those Richmond cars are beginning to filter through California dealerships if people want to go see the car in the flesh at a public event.
  3. Intake box uncovered.

    Keep in mind that if it's working as a helmholtz resonator (astonished Honda spent the effort to tune the induction noise - don't recall it was a complaint on the FK8) it actually has an open passage and feeds into the intake charge. So you wouldn't want CO2 being fed into your intake charge...
  4. Drift King and the 2023 Civic Type R

    Motion ratios for MacPherson strut suspensions is all very close to 1. Motion ratio of the ITR is about 1.5:1. If you want to stick to MacPherson strut suspensions, that's fine but again the FK8 CTR spring rate is still quite low for a performance application. It's still the reason why the car...
  5. Drift King and the 2023 Civic Type R

    Primarily because many manufacturers are really going toward 'comfort' ride quality for the masses instead of 'good' for enthusiasts when choosing spring rates. The spring rate for the FK8 is actually quite low for the car and the weight and why it rides so well in comfort mode - the spring rate...
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    Note the OP's location. The options available to the islands is very limited especially since most of the dealerships are owned by a single owner/corp. That said to the OP if you can wait, simply wait. There's a lot of economic forces flowing through the pipe now esp in the car space with a lot...
  7. [Cough] Has anyone stopped to think that FL5 production is going to be limited and made in Japan because of the coming Integra Type S? [Cough]

    Why would you think that? The 2023 Acura Integra is built in Marysville Ohio plant while the LHD Civic Hatchback is built in Greensburg Indiana. If a Type-S is built it's coming out of Marysville so not directly affecting Civic HB production capacity. Type-S would be ~6k units at most for LHD...
  8. Don’t Pay Markups

    First adopter tax but overall it wasn't that difficult, it's why you have a thread with probably a hundred posts (many more that never posted) saying they got their FK8 for MSRP. You can't even find a base Civic without a markup in numerous markets right now but the point is that's all...
  9. Don’t Pay Markups

    I have to appreciate that prior to the pandemic, a once in a lifetime (hopefully) event, the US market norm was invoice to MSRP for most cars as dealers make money from ~$2000 (manufacturer incentives) below invoice and up and they don't want a car to sit on their lot for even 30 days and why...
  10. Don’t Pay Markups

    Think it's fair to say the original Integra Type-R is an equivalent comparison point which had an MSRP of $24,450. Cheapest car back then was probably around $10k? So about 2.5x cheapest car cost. Today, with all our new safety, emissions requirements and inflation, the cheapest car is around...
  11. Don’t Pay Markups

    If these people really stuck to their guns, they wouldn't of bought anything the past 12 months. Food, TV's, phones, clothes, gas... nothing. Because otherwise you're a sucker for paying the inflated prices. The car market, just like every other market, is what it is. Supply shortages driving up...
  12. PHEV Hybrid FL5 Civic Type R is possible

    EV batteries are not 90% recyclable nor are even 10% of the spent EV batteries being recycled. Part of the reason why there's such a fear of lithium and cobalt availability in a few years as alternative chemistries aren't fully available yet in the power/capacity of lithiums. However, lead-acid...
  13. GVWR Weight = 3968 LBS. And 2023 Civic Type R Will Be Made in Japan! 🇯🇵

    Maybe because they're going for a specific diameter range in mind? Quite possibly because of individuals like yourself who like the smallish sidewall for aesthetic reasons. Going 40 or even 35 profile is going to get complaints from those who are aesthetics based as, "the Championship White Type...
  14. GVWR Weight = 3968 LBS. And 2023 Civic Type R Will Be Made in Japan! 🇯🇵

    In short aesthetics, which is cool as we all know that's part of what sells a car. I looked up the Randy Pobst article and unsurprisingly they used 255/40/18 tires and gained over 1.5 seconds a lap. So wider tread and taller sidewall netting a 1.6% lap time reduction (of course different...
  15. GVWR Weight = 3968 LBS. And 2023 Civic Type R Will Be Made in Japan! 🇯🇵

    The new car is longer and wider than the outgoing one. That extra size has to add some weight somewhere. But the LE received a few other upgrades as well to the weight reduction so it's not simply just weight. Additionally it seems the new car will retain a decent sound system and still keeps...
  16. 316 HP / 310 lb-ft Power Figures Leaked For FL5 2023 Civic Type! (via Brochure)

    Not sure what you're speaking of in terms of details to the programming? The actual fuel map program? California, as a whole, is such an important market that car manufacturers will bend over backward to comply with California's emissions & fuel schedule. This means lower emissions than other...
  17. 2023 Type-R comes with K20C1 again!!!? Look inside…your thoughts?

    The FK8 had simply a cast pipe there. There's also no external fins/heat exchangers we can see on it and if it's under the plate doesn't make any sense as no airflow. The filtered air passing through this pipe is already the coldest air under the hood being it's fed by the ram air box and the...
  18. Things we've spotted from the Type R videos

    The minimum miles out of a tank generally has been 250-300 for the longest time. I see no way with normal driving (aka not yours! lol) getting 200 miles on a fuel tank. Both the 10th gen Civic Type-R and the 11th gen Civics have a 12.4 gallon / 47 L fuel tank. In order to only get 200 miles...
  19. What's in the Box (Heat Sink)??? FL5 Turbo Inlet Pipe Uncovered.

    The whole thing is weird. If you look in some of the pictures the 'skillet' itself doesn't seem to seal the edges. Which means this is a beauty/protection plate of some sort and doesn't directly affect the intake air charge. Yet the plenum (for lack of a better word) is definitely flattened out...
  20. PHEV Hybrid FL5 Civic Type R is possible

    EV's themselves don't produce emissions in normal use but the fuel they use definitely does along with the energy storage systems they use. Don't fall prey to the same kind of myths. EV's produce over double the carbon emissions in production than a similar gas powered car at a typical factory...




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