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Hold onto every spot you can. It will come eventually at some dealer, and if it's 6-12 months from now alot of these guys will have bought Corollas and BMWs. Not every one of the 49 in front of you will answer the phone or respond in time.

Nah, its not the same. Previous years didn't cast doubt on their ability to actually even produce the car. Then you have company execs in different markets talking about how super limited it will be etc etc. Supply chain issues coupled with the hype have made it feel much more drawn out and more...

Bro you live in Texas too. We'll be trying to find one for less than $60k together and will end up having to drive each other to work lol.

I will say if Honda keeps sitting on info, I'm just gonna go buy the lowest mileage LE I can find and say F Honda on the FL5. They've left all their customers wondering what the hell is happening and continue to let doubt swirl as to how many units, how many years etc. Its all total bullshit at...

Unless its the largest volume dealer in the world, that's probably a hard no. If they are like most dealers getting 3-4 or even 7-8 a year, would mean you'd probably get it in 2030.

Or Turd for short

Should be the Toyota Tercel TRD WRC Circut Model.

No I understand, but some people don't seem to so just reiterating. The concept of msrp is dead in the US.

So $60k from a dealer. For a "Corolla."

For me I appreciate ppl in big trucks. Makes it easy to see who to stay the F away from.

I know bud. Me too.... me too.

You'll get both.... markups and $8/gallon gas. Moms w 2 kids will still just have to have a suv that seats 10, and Bubba will still drive a TRX or Raptor w a pair of giant RED trucknutz dangling from the rear.

It looks like those only willing to pay MSRP are in the minority. It's the reality we are in. I also want world peace and an end to global hunger. What's right and what's going to happen are two entirely different things. Unless you can get EVERY honda enthusiast in the US to agree, these are...

This MF up here talkin' bout test driving...

Ok, cool. Exactly what I've been hearing. At least the story is consistent. Nothing to do now but....wait... and wait some more.

Has anybody in the state of Texas located a dealer that is currently taking deposits on the FL5 besides Norm Reeves of North Richland Hills (not keen on a $19k adm)?

I hope they do. Otherwise we'll all be paying waaay over what we are thinking we are comfortable with now.

They have tons of orders to fill before they can be building 10s of thousands of 1 model. They are going to be playing catch up for years.

Because they literally are having trouble building cars. Raw materials and semiconductor shortages have decimated their production. Im sure there is also a growing fear that Europe will ban ICE before too terribly long.

Well I didn't win. So they'll be available at some point.