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This, come Jan-Feb I think all dealers will be singing a new tune. We are starting to see new cars actually have incentives again. That will not happen with the R but I think we'll see the ADM start lowering. Especially after the first couple rounds of allocations hit and the hype slows.

I get that. When I bought my 2020 I took the kids and made a weekend vacay out of it.

From what, 20K to 18K, lol. CA is the worst state in the country to buy from.

You could have flown out there for $99 and drove it back, would have saved you $1000 or more.

I'd buy a beater for a few months.

I've emailed another 25 or so dealers, we'll see what responses I get tomorrow.

Lots are like "just come in and lets talk". I am good, not making the trip just for you to inform me your ADM is 20K. Just email me the paperwork, I'll wire you 20K to hold it and I'll be on the first flight in the AM.

I had a 2020 and put nearly 30K on it so I got my fix. They are amazing cars. For me, even though I am a die hard Honda guy, once I cross that 50K mark there are cars I'd choose instead as I'd rather have them I am just trying to stick to a budget. My daily is still a very cool Honda so I can...

I understand that completely. If your cash, do what you like with it. For me it's MSRP or nothing. I am also willing to wait 6 months to a year if needed. If by that time I still can't find one I'll buy something else (maybe doing that sooner).

Will do. I have been laughing and hanging up. I just talked to one sales guy and he was actually pretty cool. He was right up front about the ADM for his dealer. So I told him I'd pass. We ended up talking about cars for 15-20 minutes. He said he think the crazy ADM are terrible and he'd...

GA is the same way. Would save you $2500 give or take if you trade in an FK8.

Everything is taxed. If you trade a car you do not pay taxes on the value of your trade.

They are, I've talked to 10 dealers today that have already sold theirs.

I emailed them, we will see.

I am a Honda guy and agree on the practicality and such. My thought is if you are willing to pay 50K plus why would you not just get the TLX Type S?

For 47K I'd literally get on a plane this afternoon to go buy it.

Emailed another 25 dealers or so. I should have started tracking the ADM info in the beginning as I've now contacted at least 70 dealers.

Looks more like a 5K ADM, plus whatever other docs fees etc they hit you with when you actually buy.

The R is technically the 2nd year of this chassis and they brought over the same engine/trans so I do not think there is much to worry about.

Varies dealer by dealer.