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MX-5 manual recommends 0W20 as well, but also lists other acceptable grades, even in the North American version. VERY ANNOYINGLY, the UK FL5 manual lists 0W20 and 5W30. But for some reason, there doesn't seem to be a US/North American FL5 manual at all. I wonder if a US dealer would actually...

What happened to the October delivery date or something

I don't have insider info, but the roads here are already freezing over too. I wouldn't be surprised if shipping is slowing down due to the weather.

When I read this earlier, I couldn't believe my eyes. Does Honda tend to underquote?

Depending on the scheme they have with their bank, the dealer may receive kickbacks from the loan payments or origination. That extra money disappears if they don't sell a loan.

Number 925 at Bellvue Honda w/ 15k ADM, which includes extended warranty to 7 years/100k miles. No wiggle room accessories now, but I think they were asking 20k a few days ago?

Lame! If Fiat could splurge on a separate manual for Abarths, surely Honda could afford the same for Typer R's.

That ain't right man :(

I don't think @crash___ does much sleeping, given how many miles he's putting on already

Capitol City Honda in Olympia, WA just sold their SGP, but they said they should be receiving two more by the end of the year. Asking 10k ADM for now.

Even though I doubt there's much to go wrong w/ first-year FL5's, I agree with you. Just in case something pops up, right? Speaking of 996, there's a Targa that's been sitting for a while locally. Hope to check it out soon! Totally agree. In 2018, we could've bought a new FK8, but we bought an...

I think a lot of dealers will start to find that their 20-deep lists are hollow. Even before MSRP dropped, lots of people had multiple spots, and now plenty of those people have walked away for one reason or another. So hopefully, yes, that and everything will get us closer to 0 ADM. That said...

I'd sign that in a second. Gonna keep the car forever basically, so makes no difference to me.

The Honda that makes and sells the car and the Honda that services auto loans are not the same company, and a lot of customers don't necessarily even go through AHFC for financing (predatory dealers may lend themselves/though a partner bank, buyers may borrow from their own bank, etc.). Once a...

Wow, didn't expect the car cover to be so expensive :/ Maybe it had a couple burgers on the way over here

DM'd you

Actually, I'm not too far from where you posted this ?

Thanks for your insight! Will you be attending any local meets/Cars and Coffee any time soon? Would love to see the car in-person, and I'm sure you'll turn lots of heads.

In all honesty, who's cross-shopping a 3 against an FL5?

Idk man, there a billion factors at play when it comes to pricing anything anywhere. If you're really mad about it, write Honda a letter and ask them why. I'm sure their explanation will be just as unsatisfying as mine or anyone else's. At the end of the day, you'll either buy the car or you...