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I got to see it in person at Radwood yesterday. Definitely looks better in person and I heard many others say the same. The interior looks very much like the Civic.

The stage/lighting made it look bad. Check out the videos some people on YT did. The yellow looks way, way nicer than in the release video. I actually love it.

I know some people are very critical of this and I don't get it. Maybe it's an expectations thing. All I expected was a Civic SI hatchback in a more attractive TLX like suit and that's what it is. I personally think it looks great, definitely better than the 11th gen Civics. This is basically...

I have to agree here. The Civic SI is now the same price as an Acura ILX. That alone shows something is wrong here.

The hatchback is just a tune away from having as much power and if the 11th gen trend holds up, the SI may be slower than the 10th gen. Might not be the highest benchmark to surpass.

I fucking called it.

KIA Niro isn’t horrible. I hate the DCT in it. Feels like a sloppy CVT and makes it really tough to smoothly accelerate, but the car is overall pretty comfy and decently spirited in sport mode with solid MPG. I rented one and drove it exclusively inner city traffic and barely had to put any gas...

I agree, man. I look at this thing and my eyes just kind of wanders away. Knowing this thing is likely to be down 20-ish whp, no active suspension, no heated seats, and no dual climate just doesn’t sit well with me. If it handles better, cool I guess, but there wasn’t anything exactly wrong in...

I had a 2016 Mazda3 and that thing was fun as hell. Had the MX-5 engine in it and that thing hauled. The handling was great out of the box. But I also had a top trim. A rented base model likely rode hard and put away wet every day isn’t a good indication of what the car is really like. And I...

Speak of the devil. The new “Integra” just got spied: To no surprise it’s just a Civic hatchback. One more thing… Note the back looks like a single dump exhaust which is a telltale sign of a Honda NA motor. I’m this case I’m guessing the 2.4L from the ILX. The Integra is just looking to be...

Spot on. I’ve always liked Civics because they were small “shit boxes” (for lack of a better term lol) that were a good blend of economy and fun. The 10th gen finally got me into one because the proposition of a tunable Civic with a stock turbo for under $24k was an unbeatable value proposition...

I get that, but Honda already made a car with all that called the Accord and I hear it’s pretty popular. Not trying to be obtuse or anything, but I’m seriously wondering why people would rush out to buy this car when Honda is essentially playing catch-up with the rest of the market and their own...

Pretty much because the real world hp difference is negligible. Unlike the 10th gen 1.5T, the hp figures Honda is using is at the crank, not at the wheels. The 11th gen turbo isn’t really putting down much more power than the 2.0L NA at all. I don’t think there’s much of a case for getting the...

This. If all the appeal of an 11th gen is basically gone, then why buy and 11th gen at all. I think some people just want new cars for the sake of new cars.

Though I’m not huge on the 11th gens, I really like the looks of this CTR. I think the more subdued base design of the hatchback lends itself better to the CTR flourishes. Though I may sound like a hypocrite with sport hatchback that looks like a wannabe Type R, I was never sold on the styling...

Especially those of us in hot weather climates. Cheap black leather in the summer is an absolute no-go for me unless the seats are cooled. I’m in the process of finding covers for my Z4 because the black leather buckets are just too much to deal with. Haven’t driven the car in two weeks.

Especially when they can only select from a wide range of 3 colors. That’s fucking ridiculous and insulting when you’re spending that much on a car. I would expect this from Mitsubishi. Not Honda. Big fat L.

That’s what some tuners are already theorizing. However, the CVT was never the problem with tuning non-si 10th gens anyway. The CVT always handled the power.

Ah proof that Honda could have made the 11th gen more attractive, but decided “fuck that”.

Looks like an HPD spoiler and I detect a lip up front too. I gotta say, the 11th hatch is winning me over. This thing shits all over the sedan.