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FA5 is the manufacturing code or VIN code for the 8th gen Si Sedan with the K20Z3 engine with the 8,000 RPM redline (whereas the 11th gen Type R is FL5)

Thanks, That is exactly my current conclusion, based on reading/researching, as I have not yet test driven either one (see above) I never thought that I'd like to drive a FWD. till I got my FA5, all the cars I've driven were RWD including my wife's Nissan 240SX, no power, but perfectly...

Thanks, I did a quick search, the only pre-owned 4BW I found was CarMax in Florida, and CarMax wants $2000 to deliver it to California for a test drive. I have not looked for used CTR, somehow did not occur to me... so thanks again!

no... and that's a huge problem no Honda dealer will let me test drive a CTR, as they all want to keep milage to a minimum 4BW is not even available at dealerships nearby, only one is being delivered to a dealership nearby, but it was a special order, and they will not let me test drive it...

Agree, but... as I said earlier, I can afford more than CTR at MSRP+10K, but might as well put the $10K into a "better" (if any) car. CTR is more practical, more reliable, yet the 4BW is RWD, more powerful. faster, luxurious I might just toss a coin between the CTR and the 4BW (and toss it as...

I always said that I'll never be caught in an automatic unless it is my hearse... Manual is a must. which is why I am looking to get a new car now, before manual transmissions become extinct.

Thanks, I did not look at the weight for the CT4-V Blackwing... it is indeed nearly 700lb more than the CTR... The 4BW is 8" longer than the CTR, yet rear leg room is 4" less, and trunk volume is less than half so from practical standpoint, the CTR will be a much more practical car (and...

I've considered this, but thought that I should wait till spring time for better weather driving cross country back to California, and maybe by that time local dealership might go down to MSRP?

my entire life, other than the car I took from my parents (76 Buick Century), I bought only two cars, both new, and both times kept the car for about 20 years. my first was a 1989 Mercury Cougar XR7 (same as the Thunderbird SC), supercharged 3.8L V6. the second was the 2007 FA5 I am 60 years...

thanks, I do not care as much for raw speed (0-60 or 1/4 mile, or even top speed) as much as I care about handling, fun to drive, etc. I rather purchase new, and never cared much for BMW, so again, CT4-V Blackwing, as mentioned above might be it.

Thanks, After I posted this (should have done it before...), I did a quick search, and indeed the CT4-V Blackwing caught my eye. pretty much everything I want (possibly minus reliability and space, as it seems smaller than the CTR), bit over my budget. but, none seem available in inventory, I...

I currently drive a 2007 FA5 which I still love very much, and I cannot imagine shifting at less than 8k RPM, but still, I would like to get new car I've been looking to purchase the FL5 as an obvious choice, yet, even though I can afford it, I find it difficult to pay over MSRP... So I...

there was this post from December: https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threads/model-year-2025-civic-type-r-fl5-shipments-from-japan.54443/post-920115

What I do not understand is why they are not replacing the defective "improperly produced" worm wheel. apparently it was not properly annealed.

well, my daughter decided not to purchase a new car right now, apparently finishing up her PhD is more important than getting a new car, go figure. so there will be no twofer discount price, i.e. $10K over if I buy just the CTR I'll wait till prices drop, or she decides to replace her car...

Thanks, but it also seems to show only 2024 "RX" VINs (if I am decoding VIN correctly, the 25 VIN is "SX")

How do I find inventory outside of So Cal? the Honda inventory search wants me to enter a zip code first and then only show nearby dealers.

I never really considered it... I guess that I assumed that I have to be at the dealership to sign papers? I do not buy cars very often, about every 17-20 years the CTR would be my third new car and probably the last, as I am 60 years old... I'll research. thanks!

the reason for "only" $5K is because my daughter is buying a Civic Hybrid Hatch from the same dealer this weekend. decision is then more difficult, get a new set of tires and wait about a year for prices to drop below 5K over, which it might not, or pull the trigger now. patience is a virtue...

So Cal $5,000 over for a 2025 CTR which was manufactured after August 2024 (was not subject to the recall) I still love love my 07 FA5 but it has nearly 200K miles and it needs new tires, for whatever reason my tires never seem to last more than 15K miles :-) so I have a choice to make: either...