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Yea, my lender needed a window sticker or dealer quote.

There is a thread for markups right here. The problem is that everyone who can't afford or doesn't want to pay a markup has to shitpost nonstop about the markups. The majority of the people who are perfectly happy to pay a markup mostly don't care to post about it; two of my friends are paying...

I love my '96 Acty, but I don't think I could make it my only car. It's rough driving it on the highway. Maybe you did something to yours, but mine is AWD and struggles to get over 55mph (and it sure doesn't like getting there) so it's not really a highway vehicle. It's fantastic for what I use...

Well, I didn't want a Supra because I have a 2-door already. But I did almost buy a Blackwing and let me say that they aren't even close to the same price; my initial budget was actually for that. The OTD price on the Blackwing was close to 80k. I don't know where you're finding these stripped...

It is more power. If I knew a dealer was selling at MSRP and I was third on the list, I'd offer the 10k just to skip the line and knowing dealers they'd let me, too. Anything for a buck. There's a huge number of people, often posting right now about how ADMs are awful, that will beat me onto any...

Almost anything a dealer says is slimy dealer talk.

When I bought the MX-5 I got it below MSRP in early 2021. But I offered full cash initially and the dealer flat out told me it'd be MSRP if I paid cash. I had to finance 20k of it to get it below MSRP. In the long run it'd be only slightly below MSRP (so still a better deal), but then the...

Damn, you're the second person I've seen in AZ getting at/close to MSRP. If I was in CA I'd be driving to AZ to save myself the 20k+!

Tempted to call tomorrow. I haven't signed the final paperwork on mine. But a $2k difference isn't huge from my $10k adm. If they'll go down another $3k though I'd make the drive. I'll see tomorrow if someone doesn't beat me to it.

One of the big reasons I was aiming for an FL5 over a GR Corolla is the interior. The GRC needs an update big time.

You're basically talking past each other. Turbonium is right in the short term (next year, maybe two) this is how things will be. You're right in that prices will come down. But just as the used market/car prices didn't break overnight they won't fix overnight. It may take a year or more for...

After driving an MX-5 a ton, it'll probably sound positively quiet and cushy to me.

If the market can get itself in order I wouldn't doubt seeing them MSRP to 5k ADM in a year. The problem right now is even the used market is sky high and cars with huge inventory are going for MSRP or even slightly above. Once all of those things drop some we'll see niche/specialty cars come...

The drift king.

lol, considering she makes more money than I do and is also gonna be driving it, I think it's good to take the spouses opinion. If it was fully up to her we'd have bought the blackwing. But also, BB is the one for me so I'm glad I found it (she was after CW).

Nah, I mostly agree. My wife hates it enough that it was the one color I'm not allowed to buy. I guess it's not for everyone.

Test drove a '22 CT4 about a bit ago, just to get other options. The guy said the trim/package/accessories was about 76k MSRP iirc right. It was the only black one they had on the lot. No ADM but it was because it was basically a "leftover" and the '23s were gonna be marked up. The drive was...

Can't hurt to ask, right?

I had my wife call dealers for fun to see what they'd quote her (she has a diff last name even). Initially I'd hoped lower, but nope, always 15-20k adm when theyd offer me 10k adm. Dealers definitely were being a bit arbitrary on this.