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Unfortunately not as aggressive but we knew this for a while. Hopefully when it is fully revealed whenever that is going to be, they improve it at least a bit because if it truly is the last gas powered CTR, then it's gotta be good, even if it's bad looking it's still worth the upgrade from 10th gen for Wireless carplay alone, not to mention the better updated interior, all the added functionality, wireless charger, Bose sound system, etc
 

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Straight from Hondas mouth.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-a...honda-civic-type-r-coming-to-tokyo-auto-salon

" Fresh from testing at the Suzuka Circuit, the all-new Honda Civic Type R will make its first public appearance in prototype form January 14 to 16 at the Tokyo Auto Salon, Japan's premiere high-performance and custom car show. Wearing a special camouflage designed exclusively for Type R, the prototype will also be featured in a new action-packed test-driving video"
 

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So they’re most likely going to talk about the track times they were able to put down. Hopefully a little more information about suspension changes and drivetrain too, but I’m not gonna hold my breath. I’m still going to set my expectations way too high though, just to keep myself from crying until release :headbang:
 

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So they’re most likely going to talk about the track times they were able to put down. Hopefully a little more information about suspension changes and drivetrain too, but I’m not gonna hold my breath. I’m still going to set my expectations way too high though, just to keep myself from crying until release :headbang:
Looking at the Si, don't expect too much changes. I'd be surprised if it got a 10hp bump.
 

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Wonder if TAS will be live stream. This is high on my bucket list but with Covid kicking around, I'm not sure how long until we can physically attend
 

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Looking at the Si, don't expect too much changes. I'd be surprised if it got a 10hp bump.
Looking at the Si, improvement on driving dynamics alone is worth the price of entry, not to mention the vastly better interior and exterior. The new one doesn't need more power if cooling is properly addressed, which was the primary shortcoming of the 10th gen. Don't care about 0-60. I wouldn't buy a new one with ADM though. If I had 40k now, I'd buy some Ethereum and wait for the chip shortage to subside and buy at MSRP maybe a year from now.
 

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The Tokyo Auto Salon actually starts tomorrow, Jan 14, not Jan 15. HondaProJason also posted to his social media accounts that January 14th is the new CTR reveal. If I'm not mistaken, Japan is 14 hours ahead of east coast USA, therefore, couldn't tonight we see the new CTR from Tokyo on auto media accounts? (ie 10p ET tonight is actually 12p Tokyo time tomorrow)
 
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Looking at the Si, improvement on driving dynamics alone is worth the price of entry, not to mention the vastly better interior and exterior. The new one doesn't need more power if cooling is properly addressed, which was the primary shortcoming of the 10th gen. Don't care about 0-60. I wouldn't buy a new one with ADM though. If I had 40k now, I'd buy some Ethereum and wait for the chip shortage to subside and buy at MSRP maybe a year from now.
I agree that bulletproof cooling from the factory would be worth the upgrade. If they can improve the gearbox synchros to eliminate the 2nd gear shifting issues, that would be another insta-upgrade. Finally, I'd be interested if the steering setup is calibrated for 265/30R19 from the factory. When I switched to wider tires on smaller wheels, I lost a ton of turn in feel, and the steering effort lightened substantially (even in +R). I attribute most of this to the fact that the factory EPS is calibrated for the rubber band 20 inch tires.
 

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This is really intriguing, Honda will either give it a token 20 hp, or leave it the same. I think the car really needs 350 hp to keep close to the Golf R, but there is no way Honda will do that.

It is hard to tell but the front brakes don't look as large as the 10th gen, they might be but I could not tell exactly from the pics. I hope they get the brakes right. Stiffer chassis should see even better handling which is going to be amazing over the 10th gen chassis.
 

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I think the car really needs 350 hp to keep close to the Golf R, but there is no way Honda will do that.
This. But let's be real, Honda has 3 options: down 5hp like the Si, same 305 at peak or 315-320 at peak.

If both the TLX-S and MDX-S pushes 355 wit a (single?) turbo V6, I doubt Honda will match that on a 2.0L turbo I4 without going awd or hybrid support. But guess we shall see!
 
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