ITS ADS Module vs Coil Overs?

[DastardlyDave]

My '23 CTR is not my daily driver, but I do find the stock suspension a bit stiff. It also does not see track time (yet). I have seen people use the ADS module from the ITS to soften it somewhat. Would I better serve by installing coil-overs in place of the stock struts or using the ITS module?

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[Brittania]

Try the module first. Cheap and 10 minutes to install. If you don't like it you can sell for a small loss and try coilovers.

 

[optronix]

I don't think coilovers would really do what you expect to resolve comfort issues. The ITS module absolutely will.

You'll find people's reports of how their car rides vary wildly. Personally, I think people routinely exhibit strong indications of confirmation bias for their purchases and will claim that the ride is great, but it's actually worse than stock. I've been guilty of that to some degree myself. When I first installed springs I swore I preferred the ride. Almost a year later I can admit to myself now that it rode better stock. The same goes just for the OEM ride on the Civic; some swear they prefer it over the ITS, but most neutral observers say the car is overdamped from the factory. My point is that unless you're driving the car yourself, you can't really go off other people's subjective reports- and that goes double if they spent their own money on the car/parts.

What's not up for debate is that the DE5 module is coded to reduce the stiffness of the adjustable dampers vs the FL5. That is objective fact. So that clearly is a good first start for your use case.

As for coilovers, again you'll be reduced to what people say on the Internet. But taking subjectivity away, if you can find objective metrics like spring rate for example, you'll most likely find that coilovers are not necessarily engineered to reduce stiffness, so that will likely exacerbate your problem. Regardless if some dude on a forum says "it rides better than stock"... which I'm sure you'll find if you look hard enough.

And since you don't seem intent on using the car on the track much- which is what coilovers intended use case would be- I don't think it makes much sense to consider them.

I am just a guy on the Internet though.

 

[PNEUMA]

I don't think coilovers would really do what you expect to resolve comfort issues. The ITS module absolutely will.

You'll find people's reports of how their car rides vary wildly. Personally, I think people routinely exhibit strong indications of confirmation bias for their purchases and will claim that the ride is great, but it's actually worse than stock. I've been guilty of that to some degree myself. When I first installed springs I swore I preferred the ride. Almost a year later I can admit to myself now that it rode better stock. The same goes just for the OEM ride on the Civic; some swear they prefer it over the ITS, but most neutral observers say the car is overdamped from the factory. My point is that unless you're driving the car yourself, you can't really go off other people's subjective reports- and that goes double if they spent their own money on the car/parts.

What's not up for debate is that the DE5 module is coded to reduce the stiffness of the adjustable dampers vs the FL5. That is objective fact. So that clearly is a good first start for your use case.

As for coilovers, again you'll be reduced to what people say on the Internet. But taking subjectivity away, if you can find objective metrics like spring rate for example, you'll most likely find that coilovers are not necessarily engineered to reduce stiffness, so that will likely exacerbate your problem. Regardless if some dude on a forum says "it rides better than stock"... which I'm sure you'll find if you look hard enough.

And since you don't seem intent on using the car on the track much- which is what coilovers intended use case would be- I don't think it makes much sense to consider them.

I am just a guy on the Internet though.

Finally, a guy on the internet who speaks the truth.

to DastardlyDave, buy the DE5 module, install it in 15 minutes (so simple), and never look back!!
If you like looking at your car w/ stock ride height, the module is the way to a more comfortable ride.

 

[Tougefl5]

Talk to people who have coilovers and get there experience.
I've built a touge car and absolutely needed them. OEM was erratic and bounced me over the road. Comfort wasn't really a thought. However my coilovers are absolutely more comfortable than OEM in every sense of the way. If they went better then I'd be switching back.

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