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My 93 Civic feels the most hardcore but that doesn’t mean it’s a better overall car than the FL5 platform. The FL5 receives all the engineering benefits from the main Civic. Many of those benefits aren’t visible to the average owner. Sometimes that adds additional weight but hurts straight line...

Yeah that's very fishy, especially when every dealer in the Twin Cities is probably asking for over MSRP. Are you out of state? Most dealers were selling to locals only the last few months. Maybe they've loosened up since demand for cars is declining.

Richfield Honda in MN? I'm in MN and I'm pretty sure they were asking over MSRP for the FK8, so I'm surprised they're doing MSRP for the FL5. Are you forced to buy accessories? Unless you have a signed contract, dealers can say anything until the car gets here.

I would do 5w30 for both daily and tracking. Log your oil temp and pressure during track days and go from there. If you have insufficient oil pressures, you can go up to 5w40. If the press cars had pad and tire prep, then it may seem reasonable they put in thicker oil. Either way, they’re press...

@savagegeese, did you get a ride along with Max and Checo? If so, how was that? Honda went all out with their PR by having their RB drivers give ride alongs even though they're no longer a title sponsor for RB. From the few videos with Checo driving, he seemed to calm driving the FL5 on track...

It's just speculation. The hatch is also made in other countries. What evidence do they have to support the Type R will be built in the US?

Nothing has been confirmed by Honda about the Type R unless I missed something. https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-automobiles/releases/release-9d4b663caef09e412c833d744c1e403c-next-gen-civic-type-r-is-ready-for-nurburgring-testing

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It's anyone's guess the factory Honda chooses to build the new Type R. If built in Japan, it would make the car appear more "Japanese" even though majority of the parts are sourced all over the world. I don't envision Honda having multiple factories build the Type R as it's relatively low volume.

Fake? No AWD on the Type S?

It'll be an improvement over the FK8 and will have a faster Ring time. The tires alone will shave off some time. If they can't beat its predecessor, that's pretty poor product engineering. My predictions: Will weigh 20-80lbs more than Fk8. All signs point to the 11th gen being slightly heavier...

Doesn't seem to make sense it'll try to eat up potential CTR buyers. It'll have to be different enough to not step on CTR buyers. Probably some kind of E-AWD/Hybrid setup with 6MT. It'll be almost like a cheaper 'NSX' experimental car.

unlikely it'll get 400hp. this is subaru. they're a conservative company.

Assuming the wheels are 19x9, you can just buy 255/35/19 tires. Much better selection and well within tire fitment specifications. And no it's not a downgrade just because it's 10mm slimmer. There's more to it than just tire width.

A base manual Civic and SI are almost competing with the same market. I can see American Honda ending SI sale in the future. R&D spent on the SI appears much smaller than the Type R. The Type R is a global brand and will help market Honda as a fun car brand.

i mean they want to maximize profit like any other company. The civic is a global car and pleasing the widest audience is probably one of the toughest problems to solve. It’s why the sedan is only sold in North America.

I’m almost certain the lead designer of the XI Civic is from Honda of Japan. Not designed by American Honda most likely.

@TypeSiR what are you trying to point out? It’s still unclear the factory tire size of the new Type R.

The FK8 on factory tires in 'comfort' mode was pretty compliant.

Looks like it has 20 inch wheels. Sidewall looks pretty thin. Bottom pic is 19s.