2022 Honda Civic Si World Debut! ?

[ebhaynz]

Why oh why did they get rid of the seat heaters??

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[junktea1]

The motor is from the 10th gen Accord. Same Turbo, intake, and VTEC

Thanks. Is the transmission assembled in India? Motor from Canada or USA? If final assembly in Mexico, I'll pass.

 

[TypeSiR]

Why oh why did they get rid of the seat heaters??

Hoping to get these (heated seats, dual zone) back during mid cycle refresh. These missing items are head scratchers. Logically they should’ve kept these and reserved the 9” touchscreen and Bose speakers for later refresh. Can’t think of anything else the car needed (in Si form) other than the two missing creature comforts.

 

[MLawrence]

200 HP ARE YOU FISTING ME??

Two main problems with the entire Civic lineup…
1. The Si is STILL only 200hp (lower peak power than 10th gen).
2. The Ctr is STILL not AWD.

Like… Honda just doesn’t fucking listen.

 

[Jimi]

Two main problems with the entire Civic lineup…
1. The Si is STILL only 200hp (lower peak power than 10th gen).
2. The Ctr is STILL not AWD.

Like… Honda just doesn’t fucking listen.

Honda has proven you don’t need AWD for lap records…. So don’t know what your talking about. Maybe learn how to drive better?

 

[Jimi]

Thanks. Is the transmission assembled in India? Motor from Canada or USA? If final assembly in Mexico, I'll pass.

Final assembly in Mexico?
hmmmmm. Ok then

 

[ValkenDnB]

VTEC on the L15 does absolutely nothing. It's for fuel efficiency.

It actually helps the car keep pulling near redline. The new turbo is meant for fuel efficiency.

 

[gtman]

Hoping to get these (heated seats, dual zone) back during mid cycle refresh. These missing items are head scratchers. Logically they should’ve kept these and reserved the 9” touchscreen and Bose speakers for later refresh. Can’t think of anything else the car needed (in Si form) other than the two missing creature comforts.

The lack of heated seats is beyond head scratching. For anyone living in a colder climate it's almost a basic item, not just a creature comfort. It might sound crazy to some, but at this point I wouldn't buy a car without heated seats no matter how good the car is.

This reminds me of why I didn't buy a 10th gen Sport hatch. I liked everything about the car. But it didn't have variable intermittent wipers or heated side mirrors. Two basic items most cars have. Where I live, I'd have to be scraping side mirrors every winter morning. So I bought an EX-L instead.

This seems so shortsighted of Honda. I have no doubt buyers would pay a few hundred more on the sticker to have these convenience features included.

Honda should do what other manufacturers do. Offer the Si in base form and include basics like the heated seats. Then offer a separate premium sound package with the Bose system.

 

[ValkenDnB]

The lack of heated seats is beyond head scratching. For anyone living in a colder climate it's almost a basic item, not just a creature comfort. It might sound crazy to some, but at this point I wouldn't buy a car without heated seats no matter how good the car is.

This reminds me of why I didn't buy a 10th gen Sport hatch. I liked everything about the car. But it didn't have variable intermittent wipers or heated side mirrors. Two basic items most cars have. Where I live, I'd have to be scraping side mirrors every winter morning. So I bought an EX-L instead.

This seems so shortsighted of Honda. I have no doubt buyers would pay a few hundred more on the sticker to have these convenience features included.

Honda should do what other manufacturers do. Offer the Si in base form and include basics like the heated seats. Then offer a separate premium sound package with the Bose system.

I feel like they will probably add them during the mid cycle. It’s weird they added all these things from the FK8 (rev matching, front rear bushing from FK8, lower/upper rear control arms) and just said you know what.. heated mirrors and seats are expensive…. Let’s just take those out, throw in the 9” infotainment and the Bose speakers…aaaand let’s do the half digital dash (I prefer it over digital from the 10th gen)

oh yeah… auto stop start wooooo…. Said no one ever

 

[ebhaynz]

The lack of heated seats is beyond head scratching. For anyone living in a colder climate it's almost a basic item, not just a creature comfort. It might sound crazy to some, but at this point I wouldn't buy a car without heated seats no matter how good the car is.

This reminds me of why I didn't buy a 10th gen Sport hatch. I liked everything about the car. But it didn't have variable intermittent wipers or heated side mirrors. Two basic items most cars have. Where I live, I'd have to be scraping side mirrors every winter morning. So I bought an EX-L instead.

This seems so shortsighted of Honda. I have no doubt buyers would pay a few hundred more on the sticker to have these convenience features included.

Honda should do what other manufacturers do. Offer the Si in base form and include basics like the heated seats. Then offer a separate premium sound package with the Bose system.

There's plenty of aftermarket seat warmers, the install is a little tricky but it might be a decent workaround.
Aftermarket seat warmer install

 

[s2kdriver80]

If this was Clarkson's hilarious reaction to a measly 1-hp increase from the EP3 to the FN2... imagine what he would say regarding a 5-hp decrease lol.

 

[ValkenDnB]

I don’t mind the 5hp decrease since it spools 300rpm earlier and hangs on for until 6K rpm rather than spooling a tiny bit later and falling on its face at 5500rpm like the x gen si. I get why people are mad though. 220whp would have been nice. Overall the suspension changes and powertrain changes are really good imo.

 

[conbrio]

So when Honda writes "A new, more rigid shift lever mounting bracket", is that like saying they installed Acuity shifter base bushings?

 

[ValkenDnB]

So when Honda writes "A new, more rigid shift lever mounting bracket", is that like saying they installed Acuity shifter base bushings?

I don’t think they meant acuity specifically, but they probably put their own stiffer bushings to help the shifter feel even better with the shorter throws. Would be nice if we got a stiffer rear motor mount from the factory as well.

 

[Jessegovols]

Does it still have cloth arm rest on doors and center console?
Why can't Honda offer a wheel selection option o get something different?
Does it require premium grade gasoline?
Does it now come with a real spare tire?

Yeah I was hoping they would not stay with the black wheels. They only look ok with certain colors. I much prefer the look of the wheels from the 17-19 Si.

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