Riko
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- First Name
- Erik
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Appologies.
I completely get what you're saying, and I follow you on the oil industry and lobby thing thats holding everything back.
By dont forget the mere 'production' of hydrogen is also not an green process, at the moment.
Even if, and I agree, it is the most abundant element in the world.
I agree, those are Facts indeed.
So its not that you can merely pick it out of the sky and use it...
It can be green, and that would be a game changer, but just like with EV and where comes the green electricity question, its not green at the moment.
It has the same issue as battery production.
The process of getting to hydrogen is more or less as time consuming and energy demanding as with petrol at a gas station.
You gotta make it, wich at the moment isnt efficient at all.
And you still gotta ship, transport it.
And the oil lobby is eve behind this, and they are asking prices at the same level as petrol, if not more expensive!
But okay, mass adoption should rectify that indeed.
And that remains to be seen, how much share will hydrogen take in the whole big picture..
True, you can adopt the current infrastructure to hydrogen.
EV and the whole green electricity debate is also a very cynical one at its core.
Because there was this study from a Liège professor that concluded that electricity is also abundant, we have all these networks worldwide, the big picture, and they can be inter-connected and tweaked to supply the entire planets demand.. but yet there is this argument, we dont have enough for an EV future.
But I know, that sounds Utopian in a world driven by money = greed = national economics and interests.
And indeed, the biggest of all sinners, lobby groups.
Sure, there are companies out there offering green hydrogen in big stock, there are projects for example in the harbor of Antwerp that are looking into that, to become mass suppliers of hydrogen, green hydrogen....but we aint there yet.
As I said, am not anti hydrogen, it will be a mix I believe, and a mix will be the best option to spread all options, instead of betting on one to deal with all of the entire transporting sector worldwide.
Hell, even bio fuel has become a thing lately.
I completely get what you're saying, and I follow you on the oil industry and lobby thing thats holding everything back.
By dont forget the mere 'production' of hydrogen is also not an green process, at the moment.
Even if, and I agree, it is the most abundant element in the world.
I agree, those are Facts indeed.
So its not that you can merely pick it out of the sky and use it...
It can be green, and that would be a game changer, but just like with EV and where comes the green electricity question, its not green at the moment.
It has the same issue as battery production.
The process of getting to hydrogen is more or less as time consuming and energy demanding as with petrol at a gas station.
You gotta make it, wich at the moment isnt efficient at all.
And you still gotta ship, transport it.
And the oil lobby is eve behind this, and they are asking prices at the same level as petrol, if not more expensive!
But okay, mass adoption should rectify that indeed.
And that remains to be seen, how much share will hydrogen take in the whole big picture..
True, you can adopt the current infrastructure to hydrogen.
EV and the whole green electricity debate is also a very cynical one at its core.
Because there was this study from a Liège professor that concluded that electricity is also abundant, we have all these networks worldwide, the big picture, and they can be inter-connected and tweaked to supply the entire planets demand.. but yet there is this argument, we dont have enough for an EV future.
But I know, that sounds Utopian in a world driven by money = greed = national economics and interests.
And indeed, the biggest of all sinners, lobby groups.
Sure, there are companies out there offering green hydrogen in big stock, there are projects for example in the harbor of Antwerp that are looking into that, to become mass suppliers of hydrogen, green hydrogen....but we aint there yet.
As I said, am not anti hydrogen, it will be a mix I believe, and a mix will be the best option to spread all options, instead of betting on one to deal with all of the entire transporting sector worldwide.
Hell, even bio fuel has become a thing lately.
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