chi town brat
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Oh. In Type R mode, how was the body roll? I like my cars to feel like a rail. Though they are not they are flat.
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LOL!! those damn Mini's! IMO the best part about the Type R for Street class, is those dampers! you literally can have a co driver change your settings in car on the fly! (i have yet to try it) but yes that Mini was just stupid! like PAX hero!!!!!!! Hope to see you next season at Nats in our Type R's!!! (I'm down to petition for C or D street LOLOL, we deserve "cheater" pax too right?Great review.
Mini with an insane PAX time, thanks Craig Wilcox? LOL. Man that day at Natz sucked for a lot of people there. David Marcus is out of Florida and races with us in our region and filed the protest and now the SEB has to really deal with tunes that deal with boost tables that "shouldn't" be touched. And no, I am not making the argument here that it was. Craig is a talented driver.
Thanks for the input on this. I can't wait until after Nationals, then I'll be out in my CTR!
Due to the damper adjustment for sport and comfort it might be classed as GS due to that and the Helical diff, HS cars tend to not have any diff, regardless the ST and Mini + GTI still offer very good competition from regional to national levels!Any thoughts on if the Si will be in HS or GS? In this month's SCCA fast track is put all non CTR and Si Civics in HS. Makes me think the Si is destined for GS
haha the photo at the bottom is in +R body roll was very low!, I have a crappy video, I can try and uploadOh. In Type R mode, how was the body roll? I like my cars to feel like a rail. Though they are not they are flat.
Truthfully. STX is a frs/brz/gt86 spec class nationally regionally if you're fast enough you can hang. I had a STX 9th gen. and it wasn't as fast as the brz but I also wasn't fully STX prep. Just rsb coilovers and wheels with tires. HS is probably the most competitive class magenetic damper, real diff wide tire and wheel combo. With Rpf1's a big rear bar and tires you should PAX the street class regionallyDo you think Civic Si would have any chance in STX AX class against BRZs and Mini Cooper S? Heavier than BRZ and Mini. Little more torque than brz. If I recall can't touch stock boost which rules out most tunes. I know me I'm likely to get bored with stock HS trim and I'm thinking STX may be fun but wondering if I'll be competitive ?
I suspected that would be case. Those STX BRZs are quick. I ran my car show room stock at a Pca event with all season tires. Man talking about no grip!Truthfully. STX is a frs/brz/gt86 spec class nationally regionally if you're fast enough you can hang. I had a STX 9th gen. and it wasn't as fast as the brz but I also wasn't fully STX prep. Just rsb coilovers and wheels with tires. HS is probably the most competitive class magenetic damper, real diff wide tire and wheel combo. With Rpf1's a big rear bar and tires you should PAX the street class regionally
Lol yeah man a good set of tires will make a world of difference!Y
I suspected that would be case. Those STX BRZs are quick. I ran my car show room stock at a Pca event with all season tires. Man talking about no grip!
Yes cant wait as I figured Id change tires even if I got sport tire option so opted to go with all seasons to save $200. Here is the car 5 days old as it came from showroom Axing . My first time in FWD car in a long long time. Hey I beat several Porsches which was fun! Funniest thing ever is I couldn't see any wear on the 560 tread wear all seasons after a full day of AX runs.Lol yeah man a good set of tires will make a world of difference!
All 10th gen Civics have the ability to adjust front camber, including the Type R. See link below.@ronmcdon
Currently the CTR has negative camber set from the factory and currently it does not look like it can be adjusted and there isn't a camber kit at the time I posted this that I know of.
I'm not sure of your level of experience, but if you feel comfortable sliding it around at an autocross, why wouldn't you feel in control on track?@ayau I do indeed have the old sensor and harness so I'm pretty confident that is the main issue! And I was told not to run with the "nanny's" off because of safety reasons. Someone went off early that morning ate a wall so they said all assists on! I'm confident that's what killed the rears for sure! I left foot brake a ton and +R offers the most oversteer but corrects it you push beyond its programs parameter I'm guessing. But yes I am aware of the 5 seconds VSA OFF with traction control on and the 15 second system full off, and the "pedal dance" I autocross with the system in "fully off" mode and you can roast the tires and slide all you want! Assuming I could've let the back end slide and let the tires fix it versus the rear brakes I'm sure I wouldn't have had any issues but I was told to leave all my assists on, ironically my instructor said "I would try to find a way to loosen up that rear so the abs doesn't fix it"
Just letting others know that you can break stuff if you are hard on the car, and that every system is talking to one another. And not to worry because I'll break it so you don't have to. Definitely if you have the older harness or sensor get they replaced even if you plan to not track it
Now as for front camber. I didn't have a major camber wear issue. Sure I think an extra 1.5 degrees would help in the corners but beyond the factories 1.5 or whatever they off you'll loose straight line stability and braking distance will increase (not the end of the world obviously but be aware for those who are first timers to 'excessive camber' anything over factory lol) a simple rotate fixed a lot of the issues with the front outer edge dying quickly. I'm comfortable with 1.5 up to -3.0. But everyone has a preference. Pressures certainly effect it too i fixed my issues with the positive camber wear by bumping up one side versus the other and they wore out even by the end of the event.
But in short I didn't mind the nannys. They allowed me to "over drive" the tires and car, with out ultimately doing harm. After all it is cheaper to replace pads and rotors than a set of tires. So if they can last you beyond the couple of days you use them out on track I can't complain. The 71r is for the most part a sensitive tire it likes a small range of heat. Anything below that range it drives like mush. Until it's up to temp. And anything beyond it. It will give out earlier than expected.
It's been a big learning experience. I'm comfortable with my tires screaming and back end sliding through every cone on a 30 or 40 second autocross course. But the fastest laps out here were done in a Lamborghini hurican super trofeo R putting down 1:57 (not that I was trying to chase him down) still learning to give the tire more love and time. Going from a 9th gen Si to the Type R I have to remember to bleed off throttle more often (but the diff works so well) But as of now I don't think there are rear Track pads for the car only front
(I could be mistaken) all the oversteer I wanted (and forced) is what definitely killed my rears
Thank you for your feedback (;
I'm not sure of your level of experience, but if you feel comfortable sliding it around at an autocross, why wouldn't you feel in control on track?
The problem with nannies is that some day you will turn them off, and some day you will enter a corner a little too fast or lift a little too abrutly, and you'll put the car into a situation where the usually the nannies would come on to bail you out but this time they will not.
In my opinion it's better to turn them off from the get go and drive below the limits until you feel more comfortable. If you have autocross experience in the car you should already feel comfortable on track.