I hate seeing posts about Type R's getting stolen. Here are a few good/inexpensive products to keep your car safe!

[Amm5890]

Agreed. Killswitch is the new minimum. Layers on top of that help.

“Striker” pages on Instagram/tik tok show most guys just doing key reprograms.

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[Cueyo]

Agreed. Killswitch is the new minimum. Layers on top of that help.

“Striker” pages on Instagram/tik tok show most guys just doing key reprograms.

When you say striker pages, do you mean these idiots record themselves doing it?

 

[Amm5890]

Yup! If you search something like (your city name or area code)striker on Instagram you might see some stuff. Lots of sales facilitated on telegram too. Absolutely brazen.

 

[zumbooruk]

Anyone using Ravelco? pure physical device, no electronics.

Though I am not sure how can they say "not one vehicle ever stolen" when thieves can load a car onto a flatbed?

Together with Ghost Lock or another tracker for flatbed tracking and recovery

https://www.ravelco.com

The Best Anti Theft Device For Your Car or Truck . . . Period!

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The Ravelco (pronounced Ruh-vel-co) Anti Theft Device is installed in an easily accessible place beneath or flush mounted in the dashboard of your vehicle. A removable 16 pin male plug (which when not in use connects to your key chain) makes all the electronic connections. A hidden armored steel cable protects the wires from the rear of the RAVELCO base on through to the engine compartment where all the connections are made and camouflaged. When the plug is removed from the RAVELCO, it is impossible to start the vehicle. There are more than 100,000 different combinations. NO MASTER PLUGS. An impossible obstacle for even the most persistent thief. No Bells or Whistles . . . Just Results!

 

[zumbooruk]

I did a lot of research on GPS trackers, seems spytec is the most reliable (most coverage with super SIM, timely notifications) wired GPS tracker:

https://spytec.com/pages/vehicle-gps-trackers

I see no need for Ghost Lock, if I have the Ravelco immobilizer (which will be installed Friday)

Together with Ghost Lock or another tracker for flatbed tracking and recovery

 

[Amm5890]

Anyone using Ravelco? pure physical device, no electronics.

Though I am not sure how can they say "not one vehicle ever stolen" when thieves can load a car onto a flatbed?

Together with Ghost Lock or another tracker for flatbed tracking and recovery

https://www.ravelco.com

Ravelco looks interesting. I’m guessing they need to tap into factory wiring, correct? How much will that run you?

 

[blueroadster]

A removable steering wheel is also a great theft deterrent.

 

[Clark_Kent]

I did a lot of research on GPS trackers, seems spytec is the most reliable (most coverage with super SIM, timely notifications) wired GPS tracker:

https://spytec.com/pages/vehicle-gps-trackers

I see no need for Ghost Lock, if I have the Ravelco immobilizer (which will be installed Friday)

Did you give Drone Mobile a look? I've had it for several months and I'm happy with it.

 

[zumbooruk]

Ravelco looks interesting. I’m guessing they need to tap into factory wiring, correct? How much will that run you?

That is my understanding. tap into wiring in the engine bay. starter and fuel pump, then armored cable through firewall into cabin to a female socket.

$800 - $80 AAA discount + sales tax

Way too much for (guessing) $50 in hardware

but probably worth it for a peace of mind...

 

[zumbooruk]

Did you give Drone Mobile a look? I've had it for several months and I'm happy with it.

Thanks, no I did not till now.

Drone Mobile is AT&T network only.

I specifically searched for the most reliable communications in areas with spotty coverage, since I live in the boonies...

Spytec uses "SuperSIM" which automatically switch between AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon based on signal strength.

Spytec also works in US, Canada, Mexico (advantage since I am in SoCal and thieves could easily cross the border

And very accurate positioning, since it uses multiple positioning systems: GPS, GLONASS and Galileo

actual device is "free", you only pay for the monthly subscription plan $15/mo ($13/mo annually)

 

[Montrix]

When I researched this for my FL5 I initially decided on Ghost Lock + an OBD lock as my car is garaged and I don't live in a high risk area. That didn't make me feel super comfortable, so I debated the Ravelco until I saw it getting bypassed with a jumper wire(I also didn't want to carry another "key" on my keychain. I decided on IGLA + drone and so far so good. If I didn't have the app for IGLA, I could see entering in the code getting tedious.

 

[zumbooruk]

When I researched this for my FL5 I initially decided on Ghost Lock + an OBD lock as my car is garaged and I don't live in a high risk area. That didn't make me feel super comfortable, so I debated the Ravelco until I saw it getting bypassed with a jumper wire(I also didn't want to carry another "key" on my keychain. I decided on IGLA + drone and so far so good. If I didn't have the app for IGLA, I could see entering in the code getting tedious.

Ravelco claims that the bypass was only possible in a shop and when the "key" was available.

in general I do not like software controlled stuff. for example, my electronic door lock does not have any RF or touch controls. I am a software engineer, software is buggy, software can be exploited. which is why I like the Ravelco.

they also claim that IGLA is Russian, and cannot be trusted with your info...

I was going to get the Ghost Lock, but if I have the Ravelco, I don't need the immobilizer functionality, only GPS, so I looked at GPS trackers.

 

[Montrix]

Ravelco claims that the bypass was only possible in a shop and when the "key" was available.

in general I do not like software controlled stuff. for example, my electronic door lock does not have any RF or touch controls. I am a software engineer, software is buggy, software can be exploited. which is why I like the Ravelco.

they also claim that IGLA is Russian, and cannot be trusted with your info...

I was going to get the Ghost Lock, but if I have the Ravelco, I don't need the immobilizer functionality, only GPS, so I looked at GPS trackers.

I'm not paid by either company, and I suggest everyone do their own research before making a decision. If you like Ravelco and what it offers, more power to you. Ravelco doesn't stop a key from being copied at the port(neither do most IGLA installs to be fair). If they mean their cap/key then I can reason with it being faster to figure out which pins you need, but ultimately it wouldn't matter. There's plenty of videos on it being bypassed, and Ravelco even updated their product to be "more secure" when videos started coming out. From my understanding though, their update may have made it worse.

Yeah I agree that software is buggy, but IGLA is ultimately still a hardware solution. It sits in your CAN bus and waits for input. From my understanding, if it ever malfunctions it would just restore normal functionality to the car. Still no exploits to the IGLA system that I've seen and it's been around for a while now. Software *can be* exploited, the Ravelco *has been* exploited.

The creator is Russian, but I'm not sure what "info" they'd be getting that isn't already out there. If Russia is creating a car immobilizer as their means of collecting mass data for US customers, that's a pretty terrible approach considering how niche it is. If Ravelco's only advantage is "yeah but IGLA is Russian" that says more to me about Ravelco than it does IGLA.

 

[zumbooruk]

Russian access to my data is an issue for me personally, nothing to do with Ravelco's claims, and probably does not apply to most IGLA users

I hold top secret clearance and work at a US Navy base

for the longest while the guards at the gate made me remove and disconnect my dash cam.

initially Teslas were not allowed on base (built in cameras, telemetry sent back)

all phones have to be locked in metal lockers outside classified areas

therefor, for me, IGLA data *can be* exploited. Ravelco *has" no data to be exploited.

anyway, looking at these videos and claims made by IGLA installers, it seems that they were done under controlled shop conditions with full access to the vehicle, keys, plug, and unlimited time which do not replicate the constraints professional thieves face.

I still believe that Ravelco provides stronger, 50 years of evidence-based protection against drive-away theft and carries far lower risk of exploitation (both device bypass and data) in real-world conditions.

 

[Montrix]

I get the clearance level concerns for sure.

If a thief is willing to buy a tool to replicate your key, I think they'd also be willing to buy a multi-meter. They would also have access to the plug unless you hide it.

I can reason with Ravelco slowing down/preventing the average theft, but I don't get how you watched it get bypassed and come to the conclusion that it has a lower risk of exploitation compared to a product that has no evidence of ever being bypassed.

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