2023 Type-R comes with K20C1 again!!!? Look inside…your thoughts?

[Whitboy82]

Hard to harmonize a four cylinder, but at least it doesn't sound like the latest Toyota AXA A54 family of tractor sounding engines they're currently putting in everything they make, in one form or another.

I dunno, the EA888 sounds pretty good.

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[MrB]

I dunno, the EA888 sounds pretty good.

It's very subjective, for me the EA888 sound is a reason not to buy a car with an EA888 in it!

 

[Boostlag]

VW has been using the same EA888 engine for nearly 20 years with constant improvements. Its considered one of the best 4 bangers in the world and it goes in to pretty much everything Audi and VW. I'm sure Honda had made improvements on the last engine.

 

[Warpspeed]

I have a feeling that big "skillet" on the intake cools the air coming in and Honda tweek the ecu to get more power.

 

[Integra23]

Could it be an air to water intercooler?

 

[Whitboy82]

It's very subjective, for me the EA888 sound is a reason not to buy a car with an EA888 in it!

Yeah must be, I mean, it sounds like an NA car with actual induction noise. Almost like an NA car with an intake. I guess if you prefer all whooshy inlet noise. Maybe I miss heard or something?

 

[MrB]

Yeah must be, I mean, it sounds like an NA car with actual induction noise. Almost like an NA car with an intake. I guess if you prefer all whooshy inlet noise. Maybe I miss heard or something?

To be fair I've not heard one from inside the car, I just can't stand the sound from the outside, especially with that messy DSG backfire noise they all seem to make.

If it's like NA induction noise from inside then maybe I could forgive it!

 

[Boostlag]

induction noise is pumped in. EA888 doens't sound bad, depends on the exhaust. Just a downpipe with resonator delete sounds perfect.

 

[Warpspeed]

I think that "skillet" box in front of the engine is some Honda engineered "cooling air intake" system. Cooler air, tweek the ecu and more power.

 

[Boostlag]

I think that "skillet" box in front of the engine is some Honda engineered "cooling air intake" system. Cooler air, tweek the ecu and more power.

its not. its before the turbo.

 

[Warpspeed]

Correct. It connects on the intake side of the turbo. Hello

 

[007]

Keeping the same engine is a great idea IMO. Just perfect what was already good.

If overheating FK8 was only a problem at the track, then we don’t have a problem. I’m willing to bet it’s addressed on the FL5.

 

[davemarco]

Hard to harmonize a four cylinder, but at least it doesn't sound like the latest Toyota AXA A54 family of tractor sounding engines they're currently putting in everything they make, in one form or another.

I agree that they're never going to sound like the sweet music coming out of an RS3 or something like an R34, but there are manufacturers with pleasant-sounding 4 cylinder turbos. The Veloster N actually sounds pretty good (even without the bangs and pops), as does the newer VW turbo 4's. Even if we chalk some of that up to fake engine sound, why does Honda's fake engine noise sound so much worse? For a company that used to have some of the best sounding small displacement engines around, you'd think that at very least, they'd know how to fake a good engine note through the speakers.

 

[RoidRage]

All this talk about 4 bangers sounding good. Would yall prefer the best sounding 4 popper or the best performing? Imo sound can easily be enhanced vs. Performance. Ex. The N 4 banger is pretty much maxed out from factory. Perfect example is the STI. Sounds ammmmmmazing slow as shit and blows up if u look at it oddly.

 

[NillyVanilly]

This "K20C1" could be slightly revised still but i never expected much if anything to be changed. We are probably looking at a slightly upgraded turbo that will have a tiny bit more peak and hopefully a slightly wider band with more stable IAT's. The cooling seems to be taken much more seriously with this car so this should be a perfect little package. You will still have the ability to tune to near and way beyond 400WHP easily if wanted. Need to know the reason/function for that "skillet"!

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