Any higher-mileage Type R owners here who daily it as their only car, or plan to?

[TurboZed-R]

Back in 2016 I factory ordered an Sti. Went FBO and some custom go fast bits while dallying an old forester. Fast forward 2 years and the car only had 7k miles. Took it out one day and was hit head on by an early 90s VW... Ended up having insurance cover all the go fast parts but lost the car. Moral of the story is drive your cars, life is too short to drive boring sh!t.

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[chopsuey34]

And that's where I arrive at the question posed in this thread. Between the high insurance/running costs and my reluctance to put major miles on my resale-value beauty, I find myself questioning whether this could really be a long-term, single car solution for someone who isn't made of money. I want to take my usual roadies, but I keep talking myself out of doing so because I don't want to eat those running costs while also devaluing the car. I didn't have these worries with my two ND2s, but with this one, yep, I'm actually a bit fearful of driving it too much.

I'm wondering whether I can flip the mental switch. At some point, I have to be wiling to move beyond the constant worrying, accept the high running costs, and start using it as I have always used all my other cars and motorcycles. So far, this Type R is the lone exception for me. It's my only car or bike that I've been unwilling to take on multi-day, long-distance roadies, and that simply can't stand.

I wrote up a financial analysis of purchasing the Civic Si vs. the CTR. Read up on it and please ask if you have any questions. Maybe you'll find it helpful.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threads/wise-or-unwise-redux-running-the-numbers.54543/


I'm trying to decide if I want to stretch for the CTR or go with the refreshed Si. When considering the mods I would want to do, the delta between the CTR and the Si narrows as mod budget goes up.

 

[BigBird]

I vote for selling it and going back to the miata. We'll all miss you.

i'm with this.

if we have to convince you to drive your car, it's not the car for you. I would look at something else for sure.

 

[VLJ]

chopsuey34, I didn't finance my CTR, but even so, reading your thread there, man, that's scary. On the one hand, there was the "life is too short to drive a boring car" argument, while the $$ side of the brain screams, "Camry hybrid, you idiot!"

 

[qingcong]

It's a turbo K20, similar to what's used in the Accord, RDX, TLX - regular Honda passenger cars. If you drive it like a normal passenger car, I see no reason why it won't last like those cars mentioned. If you go crazy with it then of course you start taking some risks. Yes it's a Type R, but still not any more expensive than a TLX or RDX. If you are super anxious about driving a Type R then you should feel the same with driving anything above 45k. It's the nature of driving something more special.

 

[VLJ]

qingcong, the difference being that the K20 in the Type R is in a higher state of tune than the RDX version. Slightly higher redline, 43 more hp, 30 more lb-feet of torque.

 

[svvitch]

If you need convincing from a public forum to drive your car it's not the car for you. If it's a money decision, this isn't the car for you. Yes, just buy a Camry hybrid or maybe an older accord sport

 

[qingcong]

qingcong, the difference being that the K20 in the Type R is in a higher state of tune than the RDX version. Slightly higher redline, 43 more hp, 30 more lb-feet of torque.

That all sounds good to me, haha.

I get it though. I'm a similar, careful with my money type of person. That said, I'm careful with my money so that I can enjoy these few things in my life and still have enough to retire and pass on when I die. I doubt owning a Civic Type R is going to ruin my family's financial future.

 

[VLJ]

svvitch, I'm well aware of the money aspect. My question has to do with the projected longevity of the motor. I know the FL5's standard running costs will be higher, but what I don't know is whether this motor in this state of tune has proven to be Honda reliable over the long haul.

That's what I'm trying to find out. That's why I asked about the FK8, figuring that one's been out long enough now for some owners to have accumulated some decent mileage. Is it an absolute given that this motor with this turbo should have zero problems doing well over 100,000 miles if maintained correctly?

That's it. I'm trying to find out whether I can expect this to be a normal Honda, or is this special motor quite a bit more fragile, and I shouldn't plan on it going the distance as a long-term, only-car daily?

 

[VLJ]

That all sounds good to me, haha.

Absolutely. I'd like more, to be honest. Bump that 7K redline to a minimum 7,500. Give us a bit more of a top-end rush, and this motor would be perfect.

 

[svvitch]

I wrote up a financial analysis of purchasing the Civic Si vs. the CTR. Read up on it and please ask if you have any questions. Maybe you'll find it helpful.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threads/wise-or-unwise-redux-running-the-numbers.54543/


I'm trying to decide if I want to stretch for the CTR or go with the refreshed Si. When considering the mods I would want to do, the delta between the CTR and the Si narrows as mod budget goes up.

Type R = $157/hp for 5 years
Si = $169/hp for 5 years

Numbers can say anything you want them to say

 

[svvitch]

svvitch, I'm well aware of the money aspect. My question has to do with the projected longevity of the motor. I know the FL5's standard running costs will be higher, but what I don't know is whether this motor in this state of tune has proven to be Honda reliable over the long haul.

That's what I'm trying to find out. That's why I asked about the FK8, figuring that one's been out long enough now for some owners to have accumulated some decent mileage. Is it an absolute given that this motor with this turbo should have zero problems doing well over 100,000 miles if maintained correctly?

That's it. I'm trying to find out whether I can expect this to be a normal Honda, or is this special motor quite a bit more fragile, and I shouldn't plan on it going the distance as a long-term, only-car daily?

Every manufacturer has it's great and not so great. I think the 1.5 L series honda turbo could have been better. Honda J series awesome. This K20 is turning out to be one of the good ones. Why not just call Hyannis Honda and get a 120k 8 year hondacare warranty for $1k and call it a day?

https://www.hyannishondacare.com/

 

[VLJ]

Never heard of Hyannis Honda, but at those numbers that's not a bad idea. Most 8 years/120K extended warranties cost a lot more than a grand.

 

[Clark_Kent]

Never heard of Hyannis Honda, but at those numbers that's not a bad idea. Most 8 years/120K extended warranties cost a lot more than a grand.

I’d recommend getting quotes from Saccucci Honda and Hyannis Honda. 8 yr/100k warranty is under 1k. You can call or purchase online and they’ll mail you everything you need. It's a no brainer if you plan to keep the car long term. A couple items to consider: the warranty starts from your in service date. In other words, it's really a 4 year warranty; however, it's still worth a look. If you have the option for MBI through your auto insurance carrier, that may be a better deal.

 

[svvitch]

Never heard of Hyannis Honda, but at those numbers that's not a bad idea. Most 8 years/120K extended warranties cost a lot more than a grand.

Yea, I added 8yr 120k miles - somehow this is just a Civic for the warranty. I think that shows the longevity of the car. I figured one gremlin could pay for the warranty cost.

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