Catastrophic Engine Failure

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I’ve been wanting to share my story on an engine failure that I’ve had with my brand new 2024 Civic Type R for quite a while now. For context, I am based in the state of Virginia.

I bought the car on 2/17/24 brand new from the dealership. Three days later, I was midway through my commute to work when my check engine light turned on and other errors popped up on my dash. A few seconds later, I started hearing a faint rattle coming from the front of the car. The rattle became more prominent and louder as a few seconds passed. I noticed white smoke coming out from the exhaust through my rear view mirror and I immediately pulled over as fast as I could as I was on the freeway and turned off the engine. I immediately thought that I had just blown the engine and I had the car towed to the nearest Honda dealership to diagnose the problem.

The next day, my advisor from the dealership informed me that a “catastrophic engine failure” had occurred with the engine and they had to get a master tech to diagnose the car. After a few days they had diagnosed the problem as a valve keeper that had somehow gotten loose in the engine which had thrown off the timing and ended up blowing up the engine. The car is in the process of getting the entire engine replaced and has been there since I had it towed on 2/20/24. I was told a few days ago that the parts had finally arrived for the replacement and that it would be up and running by the end of next week. I will have more information on the damage and hopefully some pictures when they have a full write up of the repair.

This had been such a massive fluke as I had only had the car for three days and the odometer only had about 185 miles on it as of the engine failure. The car is completely stock and most of the mileage had been from driving on the highway. Of course I babied the car and followed the break-in procedures as well; kept it under 4000 RPMs and never floored it. I’m wondering if I’m the only person that has blown an engine in a FL5 CTR up to this point.

I’m wondering if I have a lemon law case in my hands as my car has been in repair for more than a month (which is a criteria in the VA lemon law). I had contacted the dealership where I bought the car to request a replacement of the vehicle and of course they were of no help. A little bit before I hit the 30 day mark of the car being unusable in the dealership, I contacted Honda America for the same request and had made little progress with them. At this point, I am contemplating on going forward with an attorney so I can get a replacement for the car.

I would love to hear if any of y’all had ever experienced engine problems with the FL5 and if you guys have any advice for my situation.
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I assume the new motor and all labor are covered. Are you thinking you want to be reimbursed for the downtime or you just want a brand new Type R? The situation sucks and I would think it’s a bad motor and hopefully that’s it. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask for a replacement if the law is on your side. As to whether it’s necessary, I’m not sure.
 

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Oh man. So sorry to hear about this man. For what it's worth, I've been on the forums of previous cars I've owned and no matter what the car there are stories of engine failure. A friend of mine blew his stock 86 and had a full engine replacement. Just seems to be a percentage of any car can fail.

It does make me wish that Honda chose to build the engine in Japan and not the USA. They just have an unmatched attention to detail in their engineering culture in my humble oppinion.
 
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I assume the new motor and all labor are covered. Are you thinking you want to be reimbursed for the downtime or you just want a brand new Type R? The situation sucks and I would think it’s a bad motor and hopefully that’s it. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask for a replacement if the law is on your side. As to whether it’s necessary, I’m not sure.
Yep all the costs should be covered under the warranty. I'd definitely prefer getting a brand new one to replace the one that blew an engine over a reimbursement. I would think that a new one where it was assembled in a factory in Japan and untouched would be a lot more special than one where the engine was replaced in a dealership in Virginia, but that's just my humble opinion.
 


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Yep all the costs should be covered under the warranty. I'd definitely prefer getting a brand new one to replace the one that blew an engine over a reimbursement. I would think that a new one where it was assembled in a factory in Japan and untouched would be a lot more special than one where the engine was replaced in a dealership in Virginia, but that's just my humble opinion.
It’s your money and if the law is on your side, you should ask for what you want.
 

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Coming from a Subaru STI needless to say I feel your pain. I had no confidence in a rebuilt engine either by the local dealership. I would say that it will cost you nothing but a phone call to contact a lawyer. There are lawyers who focus specifically on lemon law so they can definitely advise you best.
 

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This seems like a very unlikely reoccurrence. The car being so new I would pursue a replacement just so nobody has touched it.
 

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I would definitely be pursuing a replacement.
 


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A brand new, unmodified, blown up, K20C1 is definitely rare. It doesn’t matter if the engine was made in Japan or the US. That’s irrelevant. Nothing is perfect and these aren’t bespoke, meticulously hand built vehicles. While I (like many others) like to believe that Japanese manufacturing is better than the US, I don’t think this is based in reality. I think this is romanticism of the 90’s and early 2000’s. Anyway, we’re talking about one blown K20C1 out of thousands and THOUSANDS of K20C1’s built in the US since the FK8 started production. The OP was simply unlucky. Let’s keep a sense of perspective.🙂

Having said that…

Given how new the car is, I’d want the whole car replaced too. This seems reasonable to me and it’s within your legal rights. Even if they put a brand new engine in the car, I’d still be put off by the experience. A major engine repair or replacement would always be in the car’s maintenance records too.
 

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How could this happen? It's supposed to be a Honda and not a "Chonda" ...
 

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Out of interest, what is this lemon law?
 

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Out of interest, what is this lemon law?
In the US, if your brand-new car has a major defect, and you gave the dealer a fair chance or fair amount of downtime attempting to fix the problem, yet it is still unresolved, the car is considered a lemon. You either get a refund or have the car replaced.

However, the clause(s) of the Lemon Law can be different from depending on which State you are located.
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