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There is someone local to me on Central PA (Off Interstate 81) who has a Boost Blue with CTR for sale.

3000 miles on it. Forged accessory wheels and Carbon Fiber spoiler.

They are seeking 50k for it.
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There is someone local to me on Central PA (Off Interstate 81) who has a Boost Blue with CTR for sale.

3000 miles on it. Forged accessory wheels and Carbon Fiber spoiler.

They are seeking 50k for it.
Thanks for sharing. That's a solid price considering the accessories. That might be one of the lower priced used CTRs I've seen. Any ppf, ceramic coating, or tint?
 

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Thanks for sharing. That's a solid price considering the accessories. That might be one of the lower priced used CTRs I've seen. Any ppf, ceramic coating, or tint?
I myself have not seen the car in person... I do believe the price to be fair too.
 

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Thanks for sharing. That's a solid price considering the accessories. That might be one of the lower priced used CTRs I've seen. Any ppf, ceramic coating, or tint?
No tint or ppf.

No tint is often for the best since it is a personal choice on the level or any tint at all. Some states will fail aftermarket tint turning the inspection process (such as MD).

No PPF or Ceramic.
 


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@AspecR the finder sites have not updated. What is new for IL allocations if you can? Thanks!
Hey, they've been updating... we're just stepchildren without allocations. We have 10 million+ people in chicago area alone, but only 1 allocation for all of illinois. KY, MS, and WI doing better than IL :rant::rant:

Seems that all the cars are going to california...

— 06/25/2023 12:15 PM
Good news! We just found 7 new CTR's
Status On Site (5):
State │ #
═══════╪════
TX │ 1
IL │ 1
WI │ 1
CA │ 1
FL │ 1
Status In Transit (2):
State │ #
═══════╪════
IN │ 1
FL │ 1

— 06/25/2023 3:15 PM
Good news! We just found 5 new CTR's
Status On Site (5):
State │ #
═══════╪════
TX │ 2
KY │ 2
FL │ 1

— Yesterday at 8:15 AM
Good news! We just found 5 new CTR's
Status On Site (5):
State │ #
═══════╪════
WI │ 2
MS │ 2
FL │ 1

— Yesterday at 12:15 PM
Good news! We just found 10 new CTR's
Status On Site (10):
State │ #
═══════╪════
CA │ 8
OR │ 1
WA │ 1

— Today at 8:16 AM
Good news! We just found 5 new CTR's
Status On Site (5):
State │ #
═══════╪════
FL │ 4
GA │ 1

— Today at 12:15 PM
Good news! We just found 17 new CTR's
Status On Site (17):
State │ #
═══════╪════
CA │ 16
OH │ 1
 

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There are currently 307 of FL5 available on Autotrader. And just 2 weeks ago the number was 243. Seems like the purchase is slowly down somewhat. It seems like there will be more inventory going into the holiday season end of this year. This is not the most accurate but its a meter stick to gauge. It will be interesting.
 

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There are currently 307 of FL5 available on Autotrader. And just 2 weeks ago the number was 243. Seems like the purchase is slowly down somewhat. It seems like there will be more inventory going into the holiday season end of this year. This is not the most accurate but its a meter stick to gauge. It will be interesting.

I totally agree with you, however, there is yet another factor... it's all those dealerships just SITTING on cars -- mostly due to extravagant ADMs. Other dealers just like having it in their showroom. For instance, in Chicago area, we have a dealer that's been sitting on a car since JANUARY of this year ('23). Dealers like this one don't even want to sell the car because it brings in people just to have a look. Sad.
 

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I totally agree with you, however, there is yet another factor... it's all those dealerships just SITTING on cars -- mostly due to extravagant ADMs. Other dealers just like having it in their showroom. For instance, in Chicago area, we have a dealer that's been sitting on a car since JANUARY of this year ('23). Dealers like this one don't even want to sell the car because it brings in people just to have a look. Sad.
Remember, ALL cars are slowing down in sales and production is only increasing. At some point the dealers will need to begin flipping cars for parking lot spaces. They can sit on cars until their lot fills which, at least in my area, is start to become a real consideration for the dealerships. Add in the Type-S is now released so people cross shopping the two now have (at least the 3 Bay Area dealerships I was talking to) about 4 Type-S's per dealership within the next 30 days. I'm still holding to later this year, as long as you don't need financing or can pay it off immediately, it'll get easier later in the year.
 

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Remember, ALL cars are slowing down in sales and production is only increasing. At some point the dealers will need to begin flipping cars for parking lot spaces. They can sit on cars until their lot fills which, at least in my area, is start to become a real consideration for the dealerships. Add in the Type-S is now released so people cross shopping the two now have (at least the 3 Bay Area dealerships I was talking to) about 4 Type-S's per dealership within the next 30 days. I'm still holding to later this year, as long as you don't need financing or can pay it off immediately, it'll get easier later in the year.
I agree with all you said. A couple of months ago, i myself mentioned on this forum how the showroom floor cost would take its toll, but the people here who work at dealerships don't think it would apply to special cars like the FL5 -- which does make sense. I also have posted how the type S would probably ease the FL5 market. So, i am totally in your camp, but as is typical, it's not just one issue causing the market to move in a certain direction, but yah...there's often a main driver of the trends.
 


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I agree with all you said. A couple of months ago, i myself mentioned on this forum how the showroom floor cost would take its toll, but the people here who work at dealerships don't think it would apply to special cars like the FL5 -- which does make sense. I also have posted how the type S would probably ease the FL5 market. So, i am totally in your camp, but as is typical, it's not just one issue causing the market to move in a certain direction, but yah...there's often a main driver of the trends.
Yes, I recall that discussion re cost of holding inventory. It's a non-issue because the volume isn't there. A number of these dealerships, as someone mentioned, view the CTR as showroom jewelry and have demonstrated a willingness to hold onto them for months. The presence of an FL5 on the showroom floor draws a crowd and provides an opportunity to cross sell. I'm sure many of you have been asked, "Are you interested in a Civic Si? We have one available in Sonic Grey Pearl for only $5K over MSRP!!!" While some of us are repulsed by the proposition of going into a dealership for a Type R and leaving with an Si, I'm certain there's some level of sales conversion.
 

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Yes, I recall that discussion re cost of holding inventory. It's a non-issue because the volume isn't there. A number of these dealerships, as someone mentioned, view the CTR as showroom jewelry and have demonstrated a willingness to hold onto them for months. The presence of an FL5 on the showroom floor draws a crowd and provides an opportunity to cross sell. I'm sure many of you have been asked, "Are you interested in a Civic Si? We have one available in Sonic Grey Pearl for only $5K over MSRP!!!" While some of us are repulsed by the proposition of going into a dealership for a Type R and leaving with an Si, I'm certain there's some level of sales conversion.
Yep. Totally agree, especially when they sit down and really start crunching the numbers between an FL5 with a $10k+ ADM vs an Si with maaaaaybe $5k ADM, the Si starts looking like a major bargain (which it is). And I bet some even buy an Si as a stop-gap till they can get ahold of an FL5. Not a bad plan at all.
 

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I agree with all you said. A couple of months ago, i myself mentioned on this forum how the showroom floor cost would take its toll, but the people here who work at dealerships don't think it would apply to special cars like the FL5 -- which does make sense. I also have posted how the type S would probably ease the FL5 market. So, i am totally in your camp, but as is typical, it's not just one issue causing the market to move in a certain direction, but yah...there's often a main driver of the trends.
Even just looking at the CTR, look at the allocation map. You're beginning to see 2 cars at the same dealership in the major metro areas. It's just a decision of how long they want to fill the floor with CTR's, a car 90% of the public have no interest in buying (cost and manual), over a CRV or Pilot Trailsport or something that a lot more people want and will come down to see/buy.

Then looking at Acura dealerships in your area, at least here in the Bay Area, most Acura's are being advertised below MSRP (TLX and MDX Type-S included). All these $35-55k manual hatchbacks are competing for the same customers, which includes a number who have to finance and those rates aren't going down at this point.
 

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There are currently 307 of FL5 available on Autotrader. And just 2 weeks ago the number was 243. Seems like the purchase is slowly down somewhat. It seems like there will be more inventory going into the holiday season end of this year. This is not the most accurate but its a meter stick to gauge. It will be interesting.
Just because they are showing up on your list does not mean they are available.....stop spreading false information.
 

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Just because they are showing up on your list does not mean they are available.....stop spreading false information.

What do you mean that they are not "available"? Are you saying they already have deposits? I have called multiple dealerships and so many of them are asking for 10-15k over and do not have anyone committed. Right now, the map is showing 369 (as of 7/1) vehicles, and in my area, about half are still available to anyone who wants to buy a honda at porsche prices.
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