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Dang I'm in a somewhat similar position maybe you guys can help sway me one way or the other. I'm testing a blackwing on Saturday. Found an MSRP dealer that is confident they can get me my barebones manual spec I'd want in a couple of months. So do I jump ship?
Option 1- type r at MSRP dealer with a 6 to 18 month wait, and 20k in the trunk.
Option 2- blackwing in a couple months no hassle.
Either one would be kept for 10 years at least.
At 3,900 pds, stick with the R. Only downside is you dont know if 6-18 months is real.

 

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At 3,900 pds, stick with the R. Only downside is you dont know if 6-18 months is real.
That's 100% it. Love the value and everything the R has to offer but I put my deposit down almost a year ago and the uncertainty/waiting sucks. I had to call 12 dealers and deal with wait-list nonsense. The mark up game is annoying. Whereas the first local Cadillac dealer called me back, asked what I wanted, offered MSRP, and scheduled a test drive. I always felt like Cadillac was a grandpa brand and now here they are offering one of the last few enthusiast oriented cars. I know I should just wait but I've been driving a boring but reliable Mazda 3 for 9 years. Crazy times. Rant over lol.
Happy hunting everyone!
 

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That's 100% it. Love the value and everything the R has to offer but I put my deposit down almost a year ago and the uncertainty/waiting sucks. I had to call 12 dealers and deal with wait-list nonsense. The mark up game is annoying. Whereas the first local Cadillac dealer called me back, asked what I wanted, offered MSRP, and scheduled a test drive. I always felt like Cadillac was a grandpa brand and now here they are offering one of the last few enthusiast oriented cars. I know I should just wait but I've been driving a boring but reliable Mazda 3 for 9 years. Crazy times. Rant over lol.
Happy hunting everyone!
Yeah I don't blame you after my FK8 was literally stolen (white collar theft) I went around and around looking for the MK8 Golf R and was first in line with a 3K markup, but got tired of waiting for the car to come in(9 months). However, because of that I wouldn't even be in the place to have a deposit on this car, so I guess thanks VW for beating Honda to the markup game(again I mean cause I know FK8's in the beginning were bad the one I had was a 2019MY OMG a nob on the radio YES!!!!)Haha anyway yeah enjoy the Cadillac I've seen videos on the new Blackwing. (even the regular CT4-V looks like a damn beast :D )
 

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Dang I'm in a somewhat similar position maybe you guys can help sway me one way or the other. I'm testing a blackwing on Saturday. Found an MSRP dealer that is confident they can get me my barebones manual spec I'd want in a couple of months. So do I jump ship?
Option 1- type r at MSRP dealer with a 6 to 18 month wait, and 20k in the trunk.
Option 2- blackwing in a couple months no hassle.
Either one would be kept for 10 years at least.
It's a tough call if you're getting both at MSRP. They are both great cars but the price difference between the two (at MSRP) is quite substantial. I think if you just want a fun to drive great car, just stick with an MSRP Type R, save yourself the ~20k. However, if you're seeing mark-ups on the Type R, like I was, then 100% the Blackwing. Even the CT4-V drives great and the blackwing is a step-up over that, while maintaining the Cadillac luxury features which -- while not important if you only care about driving -- are still fantastic, far better than Honda's.

The wait time though is also a factor. If you want a car now, or at least very soon, then I would get whichever you can sit in (assuming the price differential isn't a huge deal).

For my part, I was getting the CT4-V for cheaper than the Type R, on top of someone paying money to take my place in line. So, this car is easily a great deal for holding onto and can trade it in, whether that's in 2 month or a year, for almost entirely of its value back.

I'll note that if you care about interior space, then both fail spectacularly as neither is particularly roomy. Interestingly a lot of my friends thought the CT4-V was a CT5-V and were very confused when they saw that it wasn't nearly as large.
 




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I think your local dealer is telling the truth. My dealership told me they only have 5 allocations confirmed for the next 3 years (!). 2 for 2023, 1 for 2024 and 2 for 2025. This is a high volume dealership in the GTA.
If you don’t mind me asking, which dealer was this?
 

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Would it be possible that someone with Honda IN access post new allocations for the tri state area when it populates in the system?

 

 
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