FL5 Type R vs DE5 Integra Type S | Savagegeese

[TypeR]

I heard the number 20% softer than the FL5 suspension in one of the video reviews.

I compared all the suspension part numbers between the DE5 and FL5 and other than the ADS units being different the front and rear springs are also different part numbers. Everything else is identical, shocks, sway bars, knuckle, control arms, and hardware except a few minor parts in the rear (1 of the 2 acceleration sensors, rear spring mount, rear shock mount and shock mount cap)

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[typeR4life]

I compared all the suspension part numbers between the DE5 and FL5 and other than the ADS units being different the front and rear springs are also different part numbers. Everything else is identical, shocks, sway bars, knuckle, control arms, and hardware except a few minor parts in the rear (1 of the 2 acceleration sensors, rear spring mount, rear shock mount and shock mount cap)

Great to hear!

Meanwhile @savagegeese, are you able to release lap times now?

 

[savagegeese]

Great to hear!

Meanwhile @savagegeese, are you able to release lap times now?

ITS 1.38.32 (OEM Tires) Me
CTR 1.38.27 Potenza Sport Britt Casey

 

[typeR4life]

ITS 1.38.32 (OEM Tires) Me
CTR 1.38.27 Potenza Sport Britt Casey

Amazing! Thanks for this!

Someone else asked this too already but I didn't see an answer I think, how do those tires compare?

 

[savagegeese]

Amazing! Thanks for this!

Someone else asked this too already but I didn't see an answer I think, how do those tires compare?

They are very close. In some ways Bridgestones are more consistent at a slight penalty in noise. Id use them on my own car.

 

[Integra23]

ITS 1.38.32 (OEM Tires) Me
CTR 1.38.27 Potenza Sport Britt Casey

Not only are you a Billionaire but you can match a race car driver.

Will you be participating in a cage match against Elon or Zuckerberg?

 

[savagegeese]

Not only are you a Billionaire but you can match a race car driver.

Will you be participating in a cage match against Elon or Zuckerberg?

Only cage match id be having is with a Wendys manager.

 

[typeR4life]

They are very close. In some ways Bridgestones are more consistent at a slight penalty in noise. Id use them on my own car.

Amazing. Thank you! Sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun in a couple weeks. ITS seems like the more daily driver with slightly worse handling than CTR, but makes up for it with more power and everyday creature comforts. I like it!

I am a bit curious about cooling on ITS still. The intercooler opening looks to be less like a funnel like on CTR. There was someone else doing Dyno against CTR and ITS kept losing power with more runs. Hopefully not an issue.

 

[savagegeese]

Amazing. Thank you! Sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun in a couple weeks. ITS seems like the more daily driver with slightly worse handling than CTR, but makes up for it with more power and everyday creature comforts. I like it!

I am a bit curious about cooling on ITS still. The intercooler opening looks to be less like a funnel like on CTR. There was someone else doing Dyno against CTR and ITS kept losing power with more runs. Hopefully not an issue.

If I am not mistaken if thats the same dyno, it was at nearly 100F?

The FL5 on track is widely known for pulling timing with heat as well. Personally, I don't care. Both are fun cars not racing/comp cars. If I do a track session, the tires are falling off before cooling/timing is getting affected. Its about expectation. With the ITS, pulling strut pins getting more negative front camber and stickier tires will 100% make car faster than CTR but I mean, really we are talking a fraction of a second. Its basically meaningless. Both cars are fun and thats how I view it.

 

[typeR4life]

If I am not mistaken if thats the same dyno, it was at nearly 100F?

The FL5 on track is widely known for pulling timing with heat as well. Personally, I don't care. Both are fun cars not racing/comp cars. If I do a track session, the tires are falling off before cooling/timing is getting affected. Its about expectation. With the ITS, pulling strut pins getting more negative front camber and stickier tires will 100% make car faster than CTR but I mean, really we are talking a fraction of a second. Its basically meaningless. Both cars are fun and thats how I view it.

Makes sense. What I was thinking too. Either will be very fun to drive! Thanks!

 

[optronix]

@savagegeese YouTube reviewers and random people alike are weighing in that the shifter feel is different from the CTR. I think that's nonsense. Can you validate?

 

[typeR4life]

I compared all the suspension part numbers between the DE5 and FL5 and other than the ADS units being different the front and rear springs are also different part numbers. Everything else is identical, shocks, sway bars, knuckle, control arms, and hardware except a few minor parts in the rear (1 of the 2 acceleration sensors, rear spring mount, rear shock mount and shock mount cap)

This is interesting info. What's the best way to get a list of all parts for both cars? I'm curious what else is different, like engine mounts

 

[TypeRD]

The seats are different. Did anyone mention this yet?

 

[Integra23]

The seats are different. Did anyone mention this yet?

Are you sure? Any links to back this up?

 

[NoelPR]

I sat on both.
The ITS seats look like they used a cheap leather Pep Boys seat cover.
On the other hand, the CTR seats are magical.

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