What did you pay for your FL5?

[DarthTrizzle]

So the cars are arriving to port in the states but are stuck do to shipping constraints in the US? Sounds like a US problem and not a Japan one, and obviously not a New Zeland one either.

It's definitely not a New Zealand problem, but more of a Honda of North America problem. Like I said I can get a container from Cali to FL in a week so it's not really a US shipping problem either. I think it's a valid complaint though. My dealer called me in October saying my car would be here within the week. I set up appts to get tint, ppf, and ceramic coating including putting down deposits for appts I had to break. I also spent hours of my life doing the paperwork that we now have to redo because the car hasn't showed almost two months later. The fact that the dealer can't even track the car anymore is also quite ridiculous.

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[Trilly_Loomis]

Once we confirm that the last of the first batch has been delivered, I think a new thread is required for batch 2 in march?

 

[HawaiiPunch]

The original Type R was like 38k and that was a stretch for what this car is. Now they moved it up closer to 45k for largely a car that does not cost them anymore to make. If you start selling this for over 50k with markup the car competes with more premium models that are in almost every single metric better sports cars (removing Honda fanboyism out of it).

Thats where I said, its not worth more than MSRP because it is already a stretch, and objectively even at 45k unless you are a Honda fan most normal car enthusiats would be laugh at that. I completely get it.

The manual supra on good tires would send this car back in time, the Camaro SS 1LE would obliterate it, the Z on real tires would be engaging in similar ways and even the Gr86 with just suspension and tires will run faster laps for far less money, feel engaging to drive. Even the Elantra N for 38k is almost identical in performance.

Im in a rare spot to have been on track/street to know. I still chose the Type R because I am some kind of twisted Honda fan. It makes almost no rational sense.

This is my main issue with the car, even at MSRP in Ontario, Canada, you’re basically at 63k after tax. That’s way too much imo, especially when the 2017 FK8 was (I’m pretty sure) just under 50K all in. I ended up with an Elantra N with snow tires, rims, tint, and ppf on the front for 49K all in.

Though, if I had the money I would honestly still want a Type R, but it felt like I was stretching enough as is.

 

[POPNTEC]

It's definitely not a New Zealand problem, but more of a Honda of North America problem. Like I said I can get a container from Cali to FL in a week so it's not really a US shipping problem either. I think it's a valid complaint though. My dealer called me in October saying my car would be here within the week. I set up appts to get tint, ppf, and ceramic coating including putting down deposits for appts I had to break. I also spent hours of my life doing the paperwork that we now have to redo because the car hasn't showed almost two months later. The fact that the dealer can't even track the car anymore is also quite ridiculous.

Ok you win. That blows.

 

[savagegeese]

This is my main issue with the car, even at MSRP in Ontario, Canada, you’re basically at 63k after tax. That’s way too much imo, especially when the 2017 FK8 was (I’m pretty sure) just under 50K all in. I ended up with an Elantra N with snow tires, rims, tint, and ppf on the front for 49K all in.

Though, if I had the money I would honestly still want a Type R, but it felt like I was stretching enough as is.

You made the right choice 100%

 

[POPNTEC]

This is my main issue with the car, even at MSRP in Ontario, Canada, you’re basically at 63k after tax. That’s way too much imo, especially when the 2017 FK8 was (I’m pretty sure) just under 50K all in. I ended up with an Elantra N with snow tires, rims, tint, and ppf on the front for 49K all in.

Though, if I had the money I would honestly still want a Type R, but it felt like I was stretching enough as is.

I think that’s a huge part of the bitterness towards the FL5 and Honda. I knew just looking at the Golf R that the best out the door price I’d get on the Civic was $60-$62k cad. I think that state side people were living in a fantasy that they were going to get the FL5 at under $40k. Especially given today’s landscape with the shortages and logistics.

When I built my car on the Honda Canada website I was out the door at $64k, but with the forced add-ons and the fact that I added the 10year warranty (I know stupid af) at an additional $3k I was out the door at 69k cad. That’s absolutely nutz for a Civic! However the direct cad to US conversion is just under $51k usd. which seems like a bargain compared to what I’m seeing people paid for there cars on this forum.

No matter how you slice and dice it that’s the reality of buying niche cars right now.

 

[UFO CTR]

I think that’s a huge part of the bitterness towards the FL5 and Honda. I knew just looking at the Golf R that the best out the door price I’d get on the Civic was $60-$62k cad. I think that state side people were living in a fantasy that they were going to get the FL5 at under $40k. Especially given today’s landscape with the shortages and logistics.

When I built my car on the Honda Canada website I was out the door at $64k, but with the forced add-ons and the fact that I added the 10year warranty (I know stupid af) at an additional $3k I was out the door at 69k cad. That’s absolutely nutz for a Civic! However the direct cad to US conversion is just under $51k usd. which seems like a bargain compared to what I’m seeing people paid for there cars on this forum.

No matter how you slice and dice it that’s the reality of buying niche cars right now.

particularly if these subject vehicle makes it on the cover of magazines, which drive the demand up further...that Elantra N is a great buy, but I just can't fathom walking into the garage just to see a car that I didn't really want, but had to settle for. For those who can / have made this pivot, congrats on a great buy!!!

 

[CWNole95]

Hall Honda in VA just sold their CW to a buyer for around $20k over.

 

[Boostlag]

Hall Honda in VA just sold their CW to a buyer for around $20k over.

Doubtful, take what sales says with a grain of salt.

 

[CyberCTR]

Hall Honda in VA just sold their CW to a buyer for around $20k over.

There's a lot of idiots in the military there, but I would also take that with a grain of salt. I would say that too if I wanted to sell them in the future for 20k.

 

[CWNole95]

You guys may be right, but before I made the trek to get mine in Tennessee (quote in hand), I checked with them one last time and they said they “wouldn’t budge from $25k over”. Insanity.

 

[Boostlag]

I know truecar is a snippet of data but it shows people are not paying nearly much. Obviously as time goes on the adm will be falling.

Not sure where Edmunds pulls their sales data from but

 

[HawaiiPunch]

I think that’s a huge part of the bitterness towards the FL5 and Honda. I knew just looking at the Golf R that the best out the door price I’d get on the Civic was $60-$62k cad. I think that state side people were living in a fantasy that they were going to get the FL5 at under $40k. Especially given today’s landscape with the shortages and logistics.

When I built my car on the Honda Canada website I was out the door at $64k, but with the forced add-ons and the fact that I added the 10year warranty (I know stupid af) at an additional $3k I was out the door at 69k cad. That’s absolutely nutz for a Civic! However the direct cad to US conversion is just under $51k usd. which seems like a bargain compared to what I’m seeing people paid for there cars on this forum.

No matter how you slice and dice it that’s the reality of buying niche cars right now.

It’s brutal unfortunately. You’re super right about judging it by the golf R up here too, that was my train of thought as well. Unfortunately comparing and converting to the US pricing is always tough, because it seems like a deal for them but we’re still stuck actually having to fork over 63k. It converting to 51k USD right now doesn’t change the fact we’re still getting strung up for them.

 

[Boostlag]

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/average-new-car-monthly-payment-hits-record-762/

Average new car payment is now 762dollars.... Wow. Definitely not sustainable.

 

[ssheff55]

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/average-new-car-monthly-payment-hits-record-762/

Average new car payment is now 762dollars.... Wow. Definitely not sustainable.

Yeah this is far from new, and the FL5 is far from the problem. I’m constantly amazed at how many $60-$80k trucks and SUV’s I see on the daily.

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