Transmission Clutch Issue's

[BgeezySGP_FL5]

Hello first post here but i am having some issues and was wondering if anyone has any insight. I have a 2024 CTR and i am having issues with getting the car into second gear. I almost get a crunch every time unless i double clutch. I took the car to the dealership and they told me this is normal. I have been driving it for about a year like this and now it feels to me like the clutch is going. I feel vibrations through the gas pedal and the clutch pedal and honestly feels a bit slower. The transmission kinda feels different. I cant smell clutch but i am not sure what to do. The car has 15,000 miles on it and i really hate going to dealers. It definetly feels like something is wrong i just am not sure what to do... any insight or help would be appreciated

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[jcm]

in these cars nowadays you cannot bang gears fast anymore like back in the days, you should not have to double clutch every time to prevent a grind that is abnormal. and although a grind in second gear is fairly common in these cars it is not "normal" per se, as it is damaging over time

there are some things you can do to avoid it like the clutch pedal mod and slowing down a bit, don't bang gears, make a conscious effort to push the clutch all the way with your left foot before moving your hand

in this case the clutch pedal mod might help you as it ensures full clutch engagement when pedal is 100% to the floor as it alters the travel of the pedal iirc, but since this has been ongoing for some time it is unfortunately not directly possible to rule out some damage to synchros or other transmission components depending on how actually frequently and severe the grind is


+ for now if double clutching ensures it doesnt grind, just double clutch tbh until you can get a resolution on your root cause

 

[BgeezySGP_FL5]

Thank you JCM yeah i never really beat on the car and it is my daily no track use. just drive it back and forth to work. i do have the clutch fully depressed before shifting i might try another dealer just have not had the best luck with dealers.

 

[jtlctr]

It sounds like you may have a hydraulic issue. Does the clutch pedal feel spongy at all? I would check the fluid level and have the clutch hydraulics bled and also check for leaks at the master and slave cylinders. If any air got in there, the clutch won’t disengage fully which could be your issue. Beyond that, you should lobby for a replacement under warranty.

 

[Amm5890]

Adjust your clutch pedal free play

 

[PNEUMA]

Bleed the clutch pedal hydraulic system, adjust the clutch pedal free play, change the gear oil (15k miles-it’s time!), go to another dealership. What you are describing is not normal.

 

[Spart]

I would take it to a different dealer.

Search "ACDelco Synchromesh Honda 2nd gear grind" - LOTS of folks have used that fluid in their trans to help with grinding issues on various Hondas over the years.

The clutch master cylinder damper is also causing a delay between what you're doing at the pedal and what happens at the clutch slave cylinder - you can try deleting that, it's an easy mod.

 

[AZCWTypeR]

I've had cold weather issues with Honda MTL on previous cars. These went away with GM Syncromesh or Amsoil MTL.
The car should shift normally once the transmission is warm regardless of lube choice.

 

[Trap The Ripper]

Start easy and simple.

A likely culprit is that your transmission fluid is spent. Try a drain and fill of the fluid first.

The car is still under warranty, so don't do any mods or adjustments on your own that would void the warranty.

If the fluid flush does not work, then go to the same, or different dealers, and insist that they take the issue seriously and try to help you. Be nice, but assertive.

 

[Spart]

Start easy and simple.

A likely culprit is that your transmission fluid is spent. Try a drain and fill of the fluid first.

Look I'm sorry but the issue OP described is highly unlikely to be solved by this side quest.

This is almost certainly a clutch issue that the trans fluid can't possibly have anything to do with.

If you wanted to "start easy and simple" on that, a very thorough bleed of the clutch would be in order.

 

[Trap The Ripper]

Look I'm sorry but the issue OP described is highly unlikely to be solved by this side quest.

This is almost certainly a clutch issue that the trans fluid can't possibly have anything to do with.

If you wanted to "start easy and simple" on that, a very thorough bleed of the clutch would be in order.

Clutch fluid needs to be flushed once every 2 years or so. So sure, why not? Have that done as maintenance.

But lets go with your diagnosis of air being introduced into the hydraulics.

If that is the case, then the dealer would need fo find the issue and fix it under warranty. Right? Because something went wrong/failed, and introduced air into the hydraulics.

Which is what my post says.

Try swapping the trans fluid to see if it helps. Maybe maintenance is the only thing it needs. I never said it was going to be the magic fix.

Try easy/simple FIRST.

If that does not work....there is probably some sort of actual problem. And the dealer needs to fix it under warranty. So to avoid voiding the warranty, don't do mods or adjustments.

What are you faulting here?

 

[Spart]

What are you faulting here?

I'm faulting this:

A likely culprit is that your transmission fluid is spent.

This is a completely unlikely culprit for any issue with symptoms of a clutch that's not fully disengaging.

 

[Trap The Ripper]

I'm faulting this:



This is a completely unlikely culprit for any issue with symptoms of a clutch that's not fully disengaging.

I disagree.

The car has 15K miles on it. He said the entry into 2nd gear is crunchy. It very well could just be old MTF that's causing it.

Why not try swapping it?

You're somehow super confident that its a clutch that is not disengaging fully. So...if that is the case, he needs to go get it fixed under warranty. Something is wrong.

So back to my original, accurate, and immacuately good looking recommendation.

Try swapping the fluid first.

If that doesn't work, take it in for repair and insist they fix it.

Don't adjust or mod the car in a way which voids the warranty.

Next question.

 

[absolude]

I've had cold weather issues with Honda MTL on previous cars. These went away with GM Syncromesh or Amsoil MTL.
The car should shift normally once the transmission is warm regardless of lube choice.

I'd be careful with the Amsoil MTL. It was known to cause excessive wear in previous Honda transmissions.
Personally I had to have one rebuilt after using it in my 2008 Si. It felt oh so buttery though...

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