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Think they would have a little wiggle room on that markup? I'd be interested in the CW but my max is 2, *maybe* 3k on one of these.
I've been searching for a sonic gray type r with a markup of 3k or less for a week or two now. I will say that I'm starting to see more type r's sitting on the lot for weeks even in some cases a month or two now. With the 24 type r's around the corner, getting a markup that is less than 5k should also be happening soon with the 23 type r's. The question is, can you stay patient until that time comes?
 

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I've been searching for a sonic gray type r with a markup of 3k or less for a week or two now. I will say that I'm starting to see more type r's sitting on the lot for weeks even in some cases a month or two now. With the 24 type r's around the corner, getting a markup that is less than 5k should also be happening soon with the 23 type r's. The question is, can you stay patient until that time comes?
Sure, Ideally I'd like to make a move toward the end of the year when they are most likely to come down off their high horses. There is a CW only a few miles from me but they still want 10K over for it, It's been on their lot since at least Sept..It's wild they would want to hold on to it for this long just to try and fuck someone over with 10k worth of hot air.
 


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Sure, Ideally I'd like to make a move toward the end of the year when they are most likely to come down off their high horses. There is a CW only a few miles from me but they still want 10K over for it, It's been on their lot since at least Sept..It's wild they would want to hold on to it for this long just to try and fuck someone over with 10k worth of hot air.
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I have a CW at $3k markup coming this week, it's sitting at the final "port" in OH waiting to be trucked to the dealership in western PA. It's biting me a little bit now that I've found at least one MSRP dealer near-ish me. (Roush respectfully declined to put me on their list due to distance.)

The copium I'm currently huffing is I could end up waiting 1-2 years for MSRP and then get a similar overall deal in the end depending on how things go with my trade. I've got a good deal on that right now.
 

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R price will hopefully come down but like you said the trade value will as well so kind of a wash. Then there is other expenses and maint on your current car while you wait for a R.
 

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I have a CW at $3k markup coming this week, it's sitting at the final "port" in OH waiting to be trucked to the dealership in western PA. It's biting me a little bit now that I've found at least one MSRP dealer near-ish me. (Roush respectfully declined to put me on their list due to distance.)

The copium I'm currently huffing is I could end up waiting 1-2 years for MSRP and then get a similar overall deal in the end depending on how things go with my trade. I've got a good deal on that right now.
R price will hopefully come down but like you said the trade value will as well so kind of a wash. Then there is other expenses and maint on your current car while you wait for a R.
Type-R markups should come down with time, but the Type-R MSRP is going to continue increasing year over year (just like it has with all Honda models)--I'd try to get your dealership down to ~$1,500 in ADM (or $1,500 in accessories, possibly even a blend of ADM and accessories of your choosing), because if (speculating here) '24 MSRP goes up by $1,200-$1,800, dealerships may still try to tack on some type of ADM, making the price of this '23 with $3,000 or less in ADM similar/better than what you might get on a '24.
 

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Type-R markups should come down with time, but the Type-R MSRP is going to continue increasing year over year (just like it has with all Honda models)--I'd try to get your dealership down to ~$1,500 in ADM (or $1,500 in accessories, possibly even a blend of ADM and accessories of your choosing), because if (speculating here) '24 MSRP goes up by $1,200-$1,800, dealerships may still try to tack on some type of ADM, making the price of this '23 with $3,000 or less in ADM similar/better than what you might get on a '24.
Ah right, and that too - MSRP shift. I actually did try all this - exchanging ADM for accessories etc. My $3k markup is already down from their usual $5k so between that and getting them to come up a bit on my trade I'm maxxed out with them.
 


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Ah right, and that too - MSRP shift. I actually did try all this - exchanging ADM for accessories etc. My $3k markup is already down from their usual $5k so between that and getting them to come up a bit on my trade I'm maxxed out with them.
I don't think it's a bad price, especially if you're comfortable that you're getting a good value on your trade.
 

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That’s a good price, indeed. Unfortunately, I won’t settle for anything over MSRP. I want this car, but I don’t need it now.
Even used type R's are going over MSRP. My insurance paid me $42k (before taxes, title, and aftermarket parts) for my 2020 FK8 with 50,000 miles which is $4k over MSRP.
 

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R price will hopefully come down but like you said the trade value will as well so kind of a wash. Then there is other expenses and maint on your current car while you wait for a R.
Yah, for sure that was my conundrum... the cost of maintenance on existing car out of warranty plus the sliding value of an aging trade-in. If you don't have potential maintenance costs, and your trade-in is a fairly recent year, then waiting is surely an option. Depending on how many 2024s are released to the wild, it could definitely drive down 2023 prices.
 

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Ah right, and that too - MSRP shift. I actually did try all this - exchanging ADM for accessories etc. My $3k markup is already down from their usual $5k so between that and getting them to come up a bit on my trade I'm maxxed out with them.

Had to get a full set of new tires to make it through the winter while i shopped and waited for a new car. If the car i wanted had been sitting on the lot, i could have saved myself 1k in new tires. These are all factors that are unique to individuals.
 

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Looks like Honda's Auto website has now updated to reflect 2024's Type R's (with updated MSRP) - of which zero are allocated around the country at the moment. (I just tried by plugging in random zip codes around the country). Hoping that these make it in by the end of December to help bring down the cost of the 2023s.
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