Formula R: High-Performance Synthetic Engine Oil by Honda Racing

[I♥️LCY]

It would be nice if you could do an oil analysis

Surely someone will get there before I will, but I wouldn't mind. I've already ordered some Blackstone kits. I want to monitor my engine and trans. This would be my first experience and I'll definitely need some help interpreting the data.

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[I♥️LCY]

I just grabbed six quarts from my local dealer for $62. Also have a Votex oil valve on the way. I plan on changing oil around 800 miles to get the break in junk out (all the moly and metals). Will start doing blackstone analysis with the Formula R oil after that.

This was my thought. BUT, I'm doing it for an opposing reason. I want to see all the moly crap. It's been a deep discussion that the moly is in the oil, not the assembly. Primarily in idemitsu oil. I'm looking to compare: HRC, Idemitsu, Mobil 1 ESP, and Kirkland in my conditions.

assumption is, all engines ship w/ idemitsu (OAs indicate this, no hard proof on my end).

 

[cryptolime]

This was my thought. BUT, I'm doing it for an opposing reason. I want to see all the moly crap. It's been a deep discussion that the moly is in the oil, not the assembly. Primarily in idemitsu oil. I'm looking to compare: HRC, Idemitsu, Mobil 1 ESP, and Kirkland in my conditions.

assumption is, all engines ship w/ idemitsu (OAs indicate this, no hard proof on my end).

seems most Japanese oils use a lot of moly

 

[johnloov]

For sure get a blackstone or speed diagnostic analysis of the Virgin sample. We would be super excited to see what it shows.

 

[I♥️LCY]

HRC oil is in. I cannot say things like the engine sounds quieter & feels smoother. I only have 50 miles post service. That's rubbish.

I did save 1 quart of oil and a nearly full oil filter for the Blackstone sample. Again, I've never done one, all I know is oil is need for the test. I'm leaning towards the contents in the filter for the sample

Goodnight fellas.

 

[johnloov]

The bottle looks really cool and the price is not bad for a premium synthetic.

Curious how much different the formula is vs the new Philips 66 Valor Shield which made the previous Honda Ultimate Synthetic ( now discontinued ).

 

[I♥️LCY]

Afternoon everyone,

Blackstone samples went out yesterday. This batch is the Honda factory oil. I will be changing oil again at 1500 miles or so, sending in samples of both engine and trans. HRC engine oil & OE trans fluid. I'll update everyone as it unfolds.

 

[AspecR]

For those that are interested in this oil and have had difficulty getting it, you can now order an oil change kit from Hybrid Racing.

Honda HRC Formula R Oil Change Kit

 

[Spart]

For those that are interested in this oil and have had difficulty getting it, you can now order an oil change kit from Hybrid Racing.

Honda HRC Formula R Oil Change Kit

Another option, with a caveat:

Be extremely careful getting anything through eBay. The vast majority of sellers of Honda parts are selling counterfeits. That being said, some Honda dealers also sell on eBay and they can generally be trusted.

This is College Hills Honda's eBay page: https://www.ebay.com/str/collegehillshonda

And they sell a kit with 6qt of HRC 0W-20, a Honda filter, and a crush washer:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254383398483

Again, be extremely skeptical of anything "Honda" sold through eBay unless you're able to confirm who the seller is.

 

[I♥️LCY]

Blackstone on factory oil has arrived. I'm now 80 miles or so away from the next oil change, aiming for 760 ish miles used; total engine mileage will be around 15xx. Part of me wishes I had access to look at engine hours. Anyway....This should put the HRC and factory oil with in miles of one another.

 

[HorizonsEdge]

Another option, with a caveat:

Be extremely careful getting anything through eBay. The vast majority of sellers of Honda parts are selling counterfeits. That being said, some Honda dealers also sell on eBay and they can generally be trusted.

This is College Hills Honda's eBay page: https://www.ebay.com/str/collegehillshonda

And they sell a kit with 6qt of HRC 0W-20, a Honda filter, and a crush washer:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254383398483

Again, be extremely skeptical of anything "Honda" sold through eBay unless you're able to confirm who the seller is.

I was able to buy the HRC oil at my local dealer.

 

[roblesjant]

better than liquimoly?

 

[Spart]

better than liquimoly?

Very hard to say without a lot of data to back any conclusion up, and there isn't really any data out there on the HRC.

 

[AspecR]

better than liquimoly?

Too early to tell, but for the most part it should perform similarly to most of the name brands out there. Frequent oil changes will do way more for your engine than any single oil brand tbh.

 

[johnloov]

This is very accurate - based on 1000’s of oil samples taken by blackstone, speed diagnostics, and the top engine builders. The frequency of oil change is #1. All engine oils start to degrade after 2000 miles. If you change your engine oil after every 2-3 track days 2-3k miles, once a year, many fk8 engines have over 200,000 miles on them, no issues, same turbo’s, same clutch, stock engines. Check the recommendations from the head engine builder of the Nissan Skyline, they broke down many engines, different oils, and the engines that changed their oil every 2000 miles went 500k+ 4-5k miles went 200-250k, and engines that changed their oil every 10k miles lasted about 100,000k miles.

When I went through the database with blackstone, asked about Motul V300, very high end engine oils, vs. off the shelf API SP engine oils, they said.. John we really don’t see any differences on your engine.

It’s all about the frequency of change. That was the main common denominator.

Other variables are your fuel, and a lot of after market air filters, like K&N etc, let more dirt into the engine and contaminate the engine oil. Cold starts also, in very cold temps are a variable.

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