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surprised there is no TST video
The Smoking Tire? I'm not surprised. Matt was not happy with how Honda handled the embargo "dates"........... but maybe there's another reason.
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not bitching. You should expect more from products you pay hard earned money for especially with huge price increases. I don't want the Type R to fall in to the STI trap where the car just stays stagnate while the competition lead grows.
That's fair and I understand your take, but everything is more expensive. If a track focused car is faster around a track how is the competition's lead growing? Who's this competition with a lead? Last I checked the JCW Mini GP was fastest to 60 among fwd vehicles, but it sucks to drive on the street. Nobody on here is saying "go buy a Mini GP." Golf R isn't class competition because its awd and slower around a track. The Type R will be fine. To me, the best Type R is the DC2. Other vehicles are quicker, but it best captures the spirit of Type R. The FL5 is simply the best Type R i can go buy new, so its the Type R I'll buy.
 

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not bitching. You should expect more from products you pay hard earned money for especially with huge price increases. I don't want the Type R to fall in to the STI trap where the car just stays stagnate while the competition lead grows.
But the car has given you more for your hard-earned money.

The FL5 is:
  1. faster around a track than the car it replaces
  2. more refined than the car it replaces
  3. stiffer chassis-wise than the car it replaces
  4. Technologically more advanced than the car it replaces
  5. equipped with a higher quality interior than the car it replaces
  6. built in a factory that has higher quality control standards than the car it replaces
I understand your concerns about stagnation but their are multiple ways in which it has progressed over the model it replaces.
 

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That kind of straight line speed at 60 mph+ is insignificant to me. I live in the city, no way going to be going that fast. Rather I'd want a car that's fun driving at slower speeds and is more refined, better tech. FL5 is that.
 

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not bitching. You should expect more from products you pay hard earned money for especially with huge price increases. I don't want the Type R to fall in to the STI trap where the car just stays stagnate while the competition lead grows.
Expected least 110mph trap for a 45k car, kinda disappointed.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a36406955/2022-volkswagen-golf-gti-by-the-numbers/


Gti traps 105mph. They trap 113 with a apr s1.
110 would've been nice to see.

The Golf you compare it to is DSG. If numbers are your only thing then I get it. Still, I'm sure there is a sizable gap between a 6 speed GTi and a Type R.
 




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Savagegeese, Throttlehouse and Topher.

The StraightPipes was mostly pointless (and less entertaining than usual). I haven't watched Redline Review, Raiti's or Dougs (Find them both annoying)
Yeah I’ve gotten that vibe about Raitis around here, but I’ve always liked his reviews.
 

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Yeah I’ve gotten that vibe about Raitis around here, but I’ve always liked his reviews.
It's stupid but it his video titles are alway soo click baity and he always wears the same clothes. Like bro, you can wear a different color shirt please??
 
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You should expect more from products you pay hard earned money for especially with huge price increases.
Yep and I'd expect a car at the price of a Golf R to be much faster around a race track than an Elantra N but on many tracks it simply isn't. And that's not even considering how poorly the Golf GTi fares at a more comparative price.

It's horse for courses in the budget performance realm of the Type R, Golf, Elantra, Corlla, BRZ, etc. Each does a few things very well so to take a single metric and use that to pan a car is an exercise in futility.
 

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Yep and I'd expect a car at the price of a Golf R to be much faster around a race track than an Elantra N but on many tracks it simply isn't. And that's not even considering how poorly the Golf GTi fares at a more comparative price.

It's horse for courses in the budget performance realm of the Type R, Golf, Elantra, Corlla, BRZ, etc. Each does a few things very well so to take a single metric and use that to pan a car is an exercise in futility.
People here talk like they're all seasoned racers but bet most of you guys don't have much track time if at all. I certainly have less than 20 hours of track days. For the majority of you the Golf R will be faster on real world driving. The trick diff on the golf makes you a much better driver than you are. Comparing latptimes is moot, just cause you wear Jordans sure shit won't let you play like him.
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