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Has anyone experienced "sticky steering" with their 2023 Civic Type R?

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2023 type r FL5 car is in 12k miles and been experiencing it for the past 1000 miles more obvious with cold weather but hard to reproduce at the dealer although Honda reading has a few fl5 with similar problems registered. Found out today that if you turn the car on without starting it and move the steering left and right you can feel it stepping as it does when showing the sticky steering problem, so it’s mechanical not electrical and likely the eps gearbox. Tried the same on a fl5 not showing the sticking steering problem and the same movement is smooth and the steering doesn’t step with the car engine off, now to try and convince Honda uk of that.
 

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I have a 23 type r and have this issue. It seems to start after driving on the highway or longer timeframes. It’s very annoying. I’m going to bring it to Honda and see, but it’s going to be hard to produce the issue for dealer.
 


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FL5 Type R owner here. I’ve 100% experienced the issue today on the motorway/highway. When cruising and a minor adjustment is require the steering becomes ‘sticky’ and requires a more firm input, meaning you overcompensate. It’s a very subtle issue, but becomes frustrating after a while.

You need to be on long straight stretches of road to experience the problem.

I’m in touch with my dealer for them to investigate…
Hi - did the dealer fix the issue? I have the same problem in my 23 type r.
 

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I've never had this issue on my 2023 FL5 but I have noticed that when I first turn the wheel after starting the car it makes a clicking sound/feeling. I assume it's the steering lock disengaging or something. I figured it was normal.
 

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Anyone get any traction on this? Mine is getting pretty bad
 

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A few 23 type R done in the UK, all steering rack replaced, mine has stopped doing it as the weather is now warmer as soon as it drops below 10c it starts getting worse again. I will try again with Honda UK when it gets worse and see what happens, its a £1500+VAT job to replace the whole steering rack outside of warranty and a £1400+VAT job to just do the EPS gearbox.
 


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Mine became a bit sticky after cruising down the motorway for a while. But I found that it only happens with the steering in comfort. In Sport and +R there’s no hint of it.
Comfort used to be my primary mode but after switching to the ITS ADS I switched to using sport as a default. I haven’t had this issue in a long time even if I’m cruising in comfort for long distances 🤷. Hopefully it stays that way.

I suggest trying sport or individual with sport steering if you have this problem. It might work for you.
 

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Could be something temperature related problem is mine is perfectly normal now that we are in the 15c + temperatures but as soon as it drops below 10c will do it again. I think it’s more the eps gearbox as I can notice it with ignition on and engine off so without the power steering working.
 

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I am also experiencing this. Hopefully, a recall will come out soon.
they probably want to make sure they've fixed the issue before launching a recall campaign.

took my '23 Si in yesterday for the issue. mine didn't seem to bind in one particular place like others. it just felt heavier throughout the entire range. it felt stiff during low speed turning (like when parking) when before the steering would get easier at low speeds. that stopped happening. As soon i mentioned the steering, the service advisor told me they have been having a lot of Civics come in lately with this problem.

fortunately, Honda told me the part just came off backorder (been on backorder since September according to my dealer) so they were able to get the part today.

I did some research and it looks like they use a resin worm wheel (i think older EPS systems used brass, but correct me if I'm wrong) that wasn't annealed/conditioned properly. so it would start to deform after some heat cycles. Honda also mentioned sufficient grease wasn't always applied correctly during manufacturing.

someone also mentioned a seal that had too much pressure on it in another post. But could not find anything from Honda about that.

has anyone taken apart a bad EPS gearbox to actually see what the problem is?
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