MY 2025 - Facelift?

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Assuming Honda doesn't drop it from the line up sooner.
The car isn't selling.
Type R will not be dropped from the line up, The Type R brand is doing exactly what it's supposed to do. 600+ new cars sitting across over 1000 dealerships is nothing in the grand scheme of things. The FL5 is selling better than expected, they've had to make production increases.
 

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I'm not sure anyone can really answer this, but I wouldn't expect any this year... but possibly next? My guess is they're actively working on the next gen, almost certainly to be a hybrid, so odds are it will take an extra year of development AT LEAST. The FL5 possibly has a "lifecycle impulse" in its future, I just think the 3rd model year is probably too soon to expect anything significant.

All that said, the most likely answer is that it will get zero changes at all over its life cycle. These things are the last of their kind, and it's not like they're having a hard time moving them. I don't think there's much incentive to invest much in adding new features, from a business perspective.

An LE variant will probably happen, but good luck with that. If dealers are still trying to get $15k over for a car that has literally thousands on lots across the country, I can't imagine how they'll try to rob people for a true limited edition.

Get a car now if you want one. Life's too short to speculate on things like this. Plus the cost will go up year over year anyway.
I wonder what the red X means? I guess the cars that have sold? but if that's the case, the car I bought isn't shown.
 


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Assuming Honda doesn't drop it from the line up sooner.
The car isn't selling.
If Honda really wanted to move these cars, they could deny dealers any future allocation if they put ridiculous sur charges in the name of making huge profits. But, maybe they don't care what the dealers do. :dunno:
 

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If Honda really wanted to move these cars, they could deny dealers any future allocation if they put ridiculous sur charges in the name of making huge profits. But, maybe they don't care what the dealers do. :dunno:
It's not that they don't care, dealer franchise laws prohibit them from doing much of anything about it. Dealers are very powerful in this country.
 

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except the FK2 generation which it was already based on the facelifted look
What do you mean by saying that: it was already based on the facelift look? I had a FK2 2015 and its production was stoped in 2016. There was just that. I also had a FN2 and no facelift. If you have the money enjoy the FL5 now, because tomorow is late
 

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What do you mean by saying that: it was already based on the facelift look? I had a FK2 2015 and its production was stoped in 2016. There was just that. I also had a FN2 and no facelift. If you have the money enjoy the FL5 now, because tomorow is late
Enjoy it now? Why would I do such a thing when I MIGHT get a few hundred dollars off MSRP in a year. My wallet will be all the better for it. LOL
 

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What do you mean by saying that: it was already based on the facelift look? I had a FK2 2015 and its production was stoped in 2016. There was just that. I also had a FN2 and no facelift. If you have the money enjoy the FL5 now, because tomorow is late
Well considering FK generation civic’s regulation production started from 2011-2017, FK2 was only produced from 2015-2017 based on the facelifted looks, you can tell from the taillights. FN2 I mean hardly a civic type R, you could call it Jazz Type R, even at one point the promotion video from Honda JP didn’t even mention FN2 as part of its civic type R lineage.
 


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I wonder what the red X means? I guess the cars that have sold? but if that's the case, the car I bought isn't shown.
I don't know, I can't take any credit at all for the tool and as others have mentioned it is crowdsourced information that probably isn't all that reliable.

I just thought it was funny that the volume of cars is so much shockingly higher than it was a year ago, yet dealers are still pulling their dumbass stunts.
 

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I prefer to use autotrader to get a better picture of the market. Many of those crowsourced entries had been without any update for many months.

554 new 24' CTRs Nationwide are up for sale right now
Used FL5 - 99 nationwide
It’s not crowdsourced. Unless something has changed, that site hits a Honda API/URL that allows them to pull inventory. When you build a car on the website and then it shows you if your local dealer has or it’s in transit—that’s essentially what they are doing. It’s not perfect but it’s a pretty solid barometer. I think where it lags is when a car is sold. A few times it shown cars available that were sold by the time I called the dealer. It did however show me a car in transit to the dealer I was next on the wait list for 2 days before the dealer knew. I called them and they had nothing on their end. Two days later they called me and were like “how the hell did you know before us?”
 

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It's not that they don't care, dealer franchise laws prohibit them from doing much of anything about it. Dealers are very powerful in this country.
Lets not forget the recent law that was signed in Florida that literally prohibits manufacturers from requiring dealerships to sell a vehicle at MSRP and prohibits them from giving out allocations based on the number of pre-orders or reserves.

I don't think people realize how scummy these laws are.
 

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Lets not forget the recent law that was signed in Florida that literally prohibits manufacturers from requiring dealerships to sell a vehicle at MSRP and prohibits them from giving out allocations based on the number of pre-orders or reserves.

I don't think people realize how scummy these laws are.
At least GA is a few hrs drive. Bought my ITS in there without any problems.
 

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I wonder what the red X means? I guess the cars that have sold? but if that's the case, the car I bought isn't shown.
The red star means the community has left a note for that car/dealer or marked the vehicle as sold. Cars with a faded color have been reported as sold. At some point they drop off. I purchased mine last year, marked it as sold and it disappeared after some time.
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