Spoon Sports Springs Installed on FL5 w/ 25mm R + 20mm F Spacers

[arcticdc5]

@arcticdc5 - Assuming you trimmed the bump-stops with the SPOON spring install ? Do they give pretty clear instructions (diagram) where to trim them down ? I really don't want a harsher ride nor bobble head dampening. Is the car really comparable to the ride when in COMFORT ? I just really like the way the car rides stock and don't want to F it up. Car looks spicy !

The spoon instructions gives a clear picture of what to trim off (the bottom most bulge). The ride is softer on comfort setting vs the FL5 OEM springs. I liked the way the OEM springs rode in comfort and now it rides even smoother. You sound very picky so these would be the springs for you vs all the other brands out there. Spoon Sports knows how to engineer a product and these deliver!

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[Dream3r]

The spoon instructions gives a clear picture of what to trim off (the bottom most bulge). The ride is softer on comfort setting vs the FL5 OEM springs. I liked the way the OEM springs rode in comfort and now it rides even smoother. You sound very picky so these would be the springs for you vs all the other brands out there. Spoon Sports knows how to engineer a product and these deliver!

J's Racing made some too that are even closer to OEM so that's another new option out. FB group had someone get em, looks good.

 

[TchnoZ33]

Finally had a nice cool day to do the Spoon Sports spring installation. Ordered these from Blackhawk Japan and was still able to save ~$100 vs the US vendors even after the expensive shipping (arrived in 10 days from time of order placement). I am running Bonoss 25mm rear + 20mm front spacers as the OEM +60mm offset just looks awful in my opinion. Onto the Installation: I've done a few suspension jobs in my past, but the FL5 front disassembly was by far the worst - simply removing the strut out of the knuckle assembly was the most frustrating asepct. Wiggling/pushing on the top of the rotor and then using pry bars for the final 1/4" of extraction seemed to have gotten the job done. Anyhow, onto the review:

Ride Quality: I wanted a suspension that felt close to stock as I liked the FL5 feel while it was in comfort mode. Reading a few reviews of the Spoon Sports, folks claimed that it actually rode smoother. Contemplated on getting some Eibach or Swift springs, but didn't want to slam the car down and cause a more harsh ride which I read some here and there with those. After installation and on comfort mode, I can certainly attest that the ride is much smoother than stock. I presume because Spoon engineered more coils than the OEM units.

Ride Height: As mentioned above, I didn't want to slam the car down with the Fenders touching the top of the tires look, just give it a slightly lower stance without straying too far away from the OEM ride quality. Based on my sight and included pictures, these springs do just that. It definitely has a more aggressive, lower stance, but doesn't slam you on the ground making you drive extra cautious not to scrape/bottom out everywhere. These are the latest Spoon Sports version springs with the black insulators on them. Supposedly they fixed the rear end squat look with these versions (the springs with the blue insulators are the earlier versions). About a finger and a half wheel gap which I'm totally fine with - More aggressive stance all while improving the ride quality - hard to believe but its true.

Conclusion: I would recommend these springs to anyone looking to get rid of the major wheel gap or those simply wanting a smoother ride vs the OEM. Also, if the FL5 suspension is too rough for you and are about to order the Integra Type-S damper control module - Don't! These springs will make the car ride smoother so there will be no need to waste that ~$200. Will give these another week to settle then go in for an alignment. Installation video and review soon to follow...

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Hello! These still look slightly lower in the back (I know it’s the fender height and not the springs themselves). Or is that just me? Are the new springs the ones I have attached a photo of below?

 

[arcticdc5]

Hello! These still look slightly lower in the back (I know it’s the fender height and not the springs themselves). Or is that just me? Are the new springs the ones I have attached a photo of below?

This is a general picture, and since those have blue insulators, they would be old. Stock pictures frequently do not get updated. The concrete up to the fender dimensions I have listed above in an earlier post.

 

[Robo7]

Hello! These still look slightly lower in the back (I know it’s the fender height and not the springs themselves). Or is that just me? Are the new springs the ones I have attached a photo of below?

With stock springs, my rear measurements are 0.25” higher than the front (from the ground to fender). To maintain even wheel gaps you would need to maintain that 0.25” difference. @arcticdc5 measured all four fenders the same height after installing Spoon. That suggests to me that Spoon is lowering the rear more than they are advertising. If it was truly a 20mm drop front/rear as they claim, the 0.25” difference should be maintained and visually there would be no reverse rake look. I think the old Spoon springs were worse, but the new springs are still not going to completely get rid of the reverse rake look. If that is important to you, look at H&R or Eibach Pro-Kit. Both lower by similar amounts as Spoon.

 

[FL5HondaGuy]

I also noticed that slight reverse rake (albeit less than initial batch) is still there with the new one's. My OCD would be working overtime with these unfortunately. I am getting some 35 profile Michelin Pilot 4A/S thrown on which are taller and also getting H&R 20/25 spacers. Hoping the 1 inch taller profile gives the same aesthetic as a 1" spring drop (lol). Either way, if it doesn't doesn't give me the the look I am trying to achieve I can always go the more conservative route and pop on the H&R's when spring arrives.

 

[TchnoZ33]

Honestly, I wish there were springs that had similar compression resistance to the spoon springs but drop like the H&R. I don’t like to have any tucking of the tires so I don’t want a big drop.

 

[Robo7]

Honestly, I wish there were springs that had similar compression resistance to the spoon springs but drop like the H&R. I don’t like to have any tucking of the tires so I don’t want a big drop.

Yes I was set on the Spoon springs, but my OCD can't handle the reverse rake so I'm now planning on going with H&R and some 265/35 R19 tires. Should keep the ride height basically at stock height, but eliminate the wheel gap and provide a slightly more compliant ride.

Also @FL5HondaGuy, a 1" taller tire will only reduce the wheel gap by 0.5" as 1" diameter = 0.5" radius.

Still love Spoon though and I'm glad some folks are loving these springs.

 

[hoping2Get1]

I also noticed that slight reverse rake (albeit less than initial batch) is still there with the new one's. My OCD would be working overtime with these unfortunately. I

This - saw in person, can def see the slight reverse take.

I’m torn between H&R or Swift. Planning to be on 18x9.5 +45 with 265/35.

My concern with H&R is, will the wheel gap look like it hasn’t really changed.
And for Swift, in some pics it looks like tires are just tucked in, some pics the fender is right above the tire, and some show a very small gap.

 

[Robo7]

This - saw in person, can def see the slight reverse take.

I’m torn between H&R or Swift. Planning to be on 18x9.5 +45 with 265/35.

My concern with H&R is, will the wheel gap look like it hasn’t really changed.
And for Swift, in some pics it looks like tires are just tucked in, some pics the fender is right above the tire, and some show a very small gap.

Split the difference and go with Eibach Pro-Kit. If I wasn’t planning on going with a larger diameter tire that is what I would do.

Stock:

Pro-Kit:

H&R (mirrored image to make compare easier):

Swift:

 

[FL5HondaGuy]

Yeah looking at the above comparison I am def leaning towards the H&R's as the drop (.75) coupled with a 1/2 " taller 35 profile will give me 1.25" drop in the front and 1.1 " in the rear without sacrificing ride quality. Heard the H&R's are slightly better than stock while keeping the same stock driving dynamics. The Swifts and Eibach's are not for me as it appears to low and would most likely kill the driving experience. Besides blowing out the stock shocks early, I could def see these causing major butt clenching over uneven pavement. I know some like the slammed look but I just don't think it does anything to improve the cars performance (although it does "look" good). Also the Swifts look tucked and I heard they are quite stiff. Unless you are running an 18x9.5 /18x10 w/38-40 offset wheel it loses the wide body look which to me defeats the purpose of lowering it in the first place. Either way for my specific application I want to maintain as much of the stock ride quality but with a little less wheel gap so I can aesthetically gain the most from the wide body design. I am going with 20/25 H&R spacers because I love the stock wheels and cant justify dropping 4k on wheels just yet. Don't get me wrong, there are some great looking builds out there that I lust over but the majority of those cars would be a nightmare to drive on normal roads. I want to drive this car the way it was supposed to be driven and not lose the actual Honda engineering that went into in the first place. Kudo's to the builders of some amazing FL5's but going overboard and losing out on all that engineering is just not for me. Def appreciate everyone's input and FB on these threads. Cheers- Guy

 

[arcticdc5]

While doing some filming at a park, went ahead and brought my tape measure to get some more height readings. Here is where things stand today:
Front: 25 - 5/8"
Rear: 25 - 1/2"
Variance of 1/8"

 

[FL5HondaGuy]

Anyone suggest front camber settings for a 265/35/19 set up ? I know we have a couple degrees we can work with stock . Don't want anything too aggressive to change driving dynamics (just want more contact patch for grip) I have a shop that said if you get us the settings we can dial it in.

 

[arcticdc5]

Anyone suggest front camber settings for a 265/35/19 set up ? I know we have a couple degrees we can work with stock . Don't want anything too aggressive to change driving dynamics (just want more contact patch for grip) I have a shop that said if you get us the settings we can dial it in.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/attachments/23-civic-alignment-975-pdf.231456/

 

[FL5HondaGuy]

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/attachments/23-civic-alignment-975-pdf.231456/

Thanks for this but this looks like instructions and I was just wondering if anyone could share their adjusted camber numbers. Sorry if I missed something on that link ADC5.

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