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Nah man, some people are all about that numbers game. The E stands for Enthusiast!
More like euthanize. Me.
(ngl a Honda e Type R sounds like kinda cool)
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More like euthanize. Me.
(ngl a Honda e Type R sounds like kinda cool)
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Why I wouldn't choose a GR Corolla
1. I don't like the looks
2. I don't like the cheap and nasty interior
3. The back seats are cramped
4. The boot is tiny
5. The reviews suggest it's only exciting when you're driving like you stole it (which is not how people use a daily driver, even if they think they do/will)
6. Even if I wanted one, in Australia, there are 500 cars coming and there are 250 Toyota dealers...so two cars per dealership. If every dealer principal decides they want one, that's half the 2023 allocation gone.
7. The local arm of Toyota is still not announcing pricing and is spouting some nonsensical gibberish about trying to stop flippers, and finding ways to ensure cars go to "true enthusiasts". Yeah, good luck with that. How are they going to stop dealer principals or sales staff nabbing the cars before members of the public? That's the first hurdle.
I am not invested in one brand over the other (Toyota vs Honda) but against the Type R, the GR Corolla doesn't appeal at all (to me). People will buy and love it, and I'm sure it will be a good car. But not good enough to get my money. However I will say I am glad it exists and long may companies make fun cars for people who love driving.
I hate the looks of the previous Civic so much. Mainly the rear.
However, I LOVE the new one from all angles and the interior looks fantastic.
I've also spent the last couple of days going over the previous CTR reviews and it seems any shortcomings mentioned by various reviewers have been addressed with the new car.
I'm struggling to see any negatives other than the fact they are yet to announce pricing and availability for us here in Australia. That will be the clincher.
Honda you're close...very close...don't fvck this up!!!!!
1. I don't like the looks
2. I don't like the cheap and nasty interior
3. The back seats are cramped
4. The boot is tiny
5. The reviews suggest it's only exciting when you're driving like you stole it (which is not how people use a daily driver, even if they think they do/will)
6. Even if I wanted one, in Australia, there are 500 cars coming and there are 250 Toyota dealers...so two cars per dealership. If every dealer principal decides they want one, that's half the 2023 allocation gone.
7. The local arm of Toyota is still not announcing pricing and is spouting some nonsensical gibberish about trying to stop flippers, and finding ways to ensure cars go to "true enthusiasts". Yeah, good luck with that. How are they going to stop dealer principals or sales staff nabbing the cars before members of the public? That's the first hurdle.
I am not invested in one brand over the other (Toyota vs Honda) but against the Type R, the GR Corolla doesn't appeal at all (to me). People will buy and love it, and I'm sure it will be a good car. But not good enough to get my money. However I will say I am glad it exists and long may companies make fun cars for people who love driving.
I hate the looks of the previous Civic so much. Mainly the rear.
However, I LOVE the new one from all angles and the interior looks fantastic.
I've also spent the last couple of days going over the previous CTR reviews and it seems any shortcomings mentioned by various reviewers have been addressed with the new car.
I'm struggling to see any negatives other than the fact they are yet to announce pricing and availability for us here in Australia. That will be the clincher.
Honda you're close...very close...don't fvck this up!!!!!
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Well our forum didn't have a bunch of spam ads until a couple days ago... It's pretty horrible now.
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There were zero ads. And about 1 day after your post mentioning it 20 ads per page.
Makes it really hard to even follow the threads on a phone...
Makes it really hard to even follow the threads on a phone...
Shankmeyster
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Just saw this from Throttle House.
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Which one do you expect to feel more raw, motorsport? GRC or Type R?
Based on what I've seen in the reviews and how the old R drove, I think the R would feel more raw. Particularly, at low speeds.
What are people's thoughts?
Based on what I've seen in the reviews and how the old R drove, I think the R would feel more raw. Particularly, at low speeds.
What are people's thoughts?
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In Canada getting a GRC is just impossible. I am #2 for a CTR since spring at a large dealer but too late for the Toyota dealer game
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I hear ya man, I tried too in the spring but was already getting told I would be 5+ on lists so I chose not to donate my money for a an interest free loan
Not sure how/why the GR lists got so big around the GTA so quickly
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CTR no doubt. Its the fastest FWD ever made, and just a negligible fraction of seconds slower on The Ring than a 911 GT3 RS, which costs 4-5x more and is among the best of Porsche racecars.
practically a world class track car that is daily drivable.
not sure how GRC became so unobtainable, the lists went crazy, i think Toyota trailers and hype, release timing, PR was overall a lot better. They also didnt have to compete with Honda as they were under their blanket with info
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Thanks for posting that. I enjoy their content.
If I recall the FK8 was like 1:15 something on the continentals.
Sad they didn't run it. Maybe saving it for FL5 and others...
The way I see it... FK8 with upgraded rubber and quicker track would be competitive.
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I see this as a win for the Elantra N. Although it was on PS4Ss, and GRC was on PS4s, Elantra does exceptionally well, even beating the old CTR, but to be fair, it was the first car they tracked a long time ago, and the track has gotten faster ever since.
Corolla would be faster than the N if they were on same tires, but its a lot more money and so difficult to get, and if you can get over the not so aesthetic styling of the N, its a great second option IMO. Albert Biermann's influence is major boon for the N division.
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