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[bRYANT619]

I made a few inquiries locally about purchasing an FK8 a few years back and they were selling at up to $5K over MSRP. From what I was able to gather at the time, ADM was commonplace but nothing like the FL5. Sure you could find an FK8 at MSRP but it would take some work. I decided against continuing to pursue an FK8 at the time so I didn't turn over every stone like I did for the FL5. A key consideration here is the FL5 supply is a fraction of the FK8 supply in the first year of production. The demand is also significantly greater for the FL5 than the FK8.

I had such an easier time finding both my of FK8s, 1st one I picked up in May of 2018 for 2.5k over MSRP but got $500 back in financing incentives. I also only had to call 3 dealers locally to me to find it at that price... 2nd one I bought was used off the original owner who paid MSRP at release from a dealer in Ohio. That one I got considerably cheap (2017 with 38k miles for 27,500)


So far I've had no luck finding a FL5 for +5k adm, I even went to the local dealer I originally purchased my first FK8 from and they were stuck at 15k adm on the 2 FL5s they had in stock. Realistically I am hoping to find one before the end of the year at 5k adm or less.

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[1971Camaro]

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So far I've had no luck finding a FL5 for +5k adm, I even went to the local dealer I originally purchased my first FK8 from and they were stuck at 15k adm on the 2 FL5s they had in stock. Realistically I am hoping to find one before the end of the year at 5k adm or less.

Wow, can't believe your dealer didn't consider you a good enough customer to cut you a reasonable (5k) ADM. That sucks. Hope you have the option to go to another dealer when getting your car serviced! ;p

 

[Hot Hatch Hero]

I had such an easier time finding both my of FK8s, 1st one I picked up in May of 2018 for 2.5k over MSRP but got $500 back in financing incentives. I also only had to call 3 dealers locally to me to find it at that price... 2nd one I bought was used off the original owner who paid MSRP at release from a dealer in Ohio. That one I got considerably cheap (2017 with 38k miles for 27,500)


So far I've had no luck finding a FL5 for +5k adm, I even went to the local dealer I originally purchased my first FK8 from and they were stuck at 15k adm on the 2 FL5s they had in stock. Realistically I am hoping to find one before the end of the year at 5k adm or less.

I purchased mine at MSRP and was $53k after taxes and fees. Car was optioned with alcantara steering wheel, carbon wing, leather shifter, rubber mats, and illuminated door sills. I live in Atlanta where markups are high; all I did was call pretty much every dealer as far West as Oklahoma and as far North as Ohio. Landed on one in Alabama 3 days after I started calling dozens of dealers. Only drawback is I have dealers calling me every week for the rest of my life .

 

[B$$]

from what people have posted here, apparently it wasn't easy to get MSRP on an FK8? how accurate is that?
All i know is that i didn't even look at an FK8 until the FL5 was announced (trying to rememb... i think it was spring of 2022)... and then, the FK8s were selling USED for 38k!! So, if i couldn't even touch a used FK8 without paying that kind of money, that also influenced me to accept an ADM on the FL5.

i know lots of brands and models, which are the ones most in demand, still are not typically selling at msrp.

I bought my '19 FK8 from a Toyota dealer for $33.5K with 6500 miles on it in February of '20, two weeks before COVID was declared a thing. The original dealer that had sold it new had been adding a $10K ADM. I did see a new one come up for MSRP about two or three months later at that same ADM dealer. It seems timing was everything with the FK8. My so-called "savings" has long been spent on jewelry for my 'lil' grocery getter.

 

[atlcivic]

I purchased mine at MSRP and was $53k after taxes and fees. Car was optioned with alcantara steering wheel, carbon wing, leather shifter, rubber mats, and illuminated door sills. I live in Atlanta where markups are high; all I did was call pretty much every dealer as far West as Oklahoma and as far North as Ohio. Landed on one in Alabama 3 days after I started calling dozens of dealers. Only drawback is I have dealers calling me every week for the rest of my life .

Damn, nice job! I’m in Atlanta also and haven’t had much luck at all. If you come across a reasonable ADM dealer calling you feel free to send them my way

 

[CCHHAAVVAA]

Does anybody know if the pacific northwest is getting more allocation or at least Washington State cuz from what I've seen on the inventory finders everybody else has allocation or still getting some but not up here

 

[1971Camaro]

Does anybody know if the pacific northwest is getting more allocation or at least Washington State cuz from what I've seen on the inventory finders everybody else has allocation or still getting some but not up here

I see that there have been some listed on the notifications that there are some coming to the state, but they're not on the map, so i don't see how to know if/what dealerships will get them. As usual, the best advice is to find and contact the not-as-popular dealers and get on a list -- even if they don't yet have an allocation, and visit the dealer a few times so they get to know you.

 

[TypeRD]

Hmmmm….
https://www.businessinsider.com/aut...upply-chain-constraints-car-buyers-2023-5?amp

 

[AspecR]

Anyone know if the last year for the FL5 is 2025?

Allegedly 2026 is the final year for the FL5

 

[TDC50]

Hmmmm….
https://www.businessinsider.com/aut...upply-chain-constraints-car-buyers-2023-5?amp

Its games like this that will create opportunities for newer to the US carmakers, hungry for market share to gain a foot hold and put existing manufacturers on their heels. Remember when the big three got fat and lazy with automotive design and engineering in the ‘60s and ‘70’s and then the Japanese decimated them.
ThEse market conditions may be just what the Chinese and Vietnamese carmakers need to get a hold in the US market.

 

[type-RUsrs?]

This dealership has a Used FL5 with 1015 miles for $59,995:
https://www.viphonda.com/inventory/...r-fwd-type-r-4dr-hatchback-jhmfl5g42px000458/
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/JHMFL5G42PX000458
Carfax values the car at $58,350

They have a second CW In-transit:
https://www.viphonda.com/inventory/...r-fwd-type-r-4dr-hatchback-jhmfl5g4xpx001678/
ADM is $19K

Safe to say, this dealership is happy to wait it out.

 

[TypeRD]

Yep @TDC50 It’s already starting to happen (again). I read somewhere about Chinese cars starting sales in the U.S. I think they may be electric cars, which makes sense. But yeah, this is how/why Hyundai has become such a competitive brand in the US. 15-20 years ago, they were not even close to where they are today. Before Hyundai making it big, Nissan, Toyota, and Honda were the newcomers. Where there are gaps in the market left by the big dogs, there’s a window of opportunity for the small dogs.

 

[1971Camaro]

Its games like this that will create opportunities for newer to the US carmakers, hungry for market share to gain a foot hold and put existing manufacturers on their heels. Remember when the big three got fat and lazy with automotive design and engineering in the ‘60s and ‘70’s and then the Japanese decimated them.
ThEse market conditions may be just what the Chinese and Vietnamese carmakers need to get a hold in the US market.

truth! the same high interest and the same assumptions that the consumer will just keep buying no matter what the price...

average consumer cannot afford the car or the interest rates... and even if they might, the lenders are not as likely to to give them a loan.

 

[CTR]

There have been about 1600 available/sold FL5 in the last 7-8 months in the US according to Steven's CTR Finder application. This is a small number and about half the volume of FK8 in this time according to @AspecR.

Like many of us have said this will not be a car that will be readily available anytime soon. The DE5 will alleviate some of the demand but I don't see $5K over MSRP becoming the norm in the near future. If you really want this car just bite the bullet and pay an ADM you are comfortable with. Continuing to call dealers daily or waiting for the elusive MSRP deal is probably more work than it is worth.

Another thing to keep in mind:
There is a good chance that when they transition to the 2024 model year this fall the price will go up another $1-$2K.

For reference I paid between $5K-$10K ADM including some accessories. No trade to muddy up the deal. Looking back I'm pretty happy with the deal I made and there hasn't been an FL5 in my state in about 2-3 months... I love the car and it has exceeded my expectations in every way. As someone who daily drove an AP1 S2000 for 8 years this scratches the itch while still being a practical car. I haven't found another car in the last decade that can do the same without looking ridiculous (FK8).

 

[CivicR38]

My delivery has been pushed back two consecutive weeks, anticipation is killing me!

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