2023 Civic Type R Sets New FWD Track Record at Nürburgring!

[Rainy4s]

The FL5 parts catalog is available on https://dreamshop.honda.com/.

Thanks! It looks like US FL5 didn't have that oil level sensor either.

Sponsored

 

[CTR1633FK2]

sry I don't exactly know what OBD scanner&app the original poster used, and I tried but I couldn't find the thread I read either.
But if your scanner finds 2 oil temp sensors then EU FK2 has it. Right now, the question is if the LogR temp is actually based on the sensor, or is purely calculated based on coolant temperature and ambient air temperature, just like Hondata suggested.
The Log R feature is only available for 2020+ facelifted FK8 and FL5

I tried to find out if the part actually exists on FL5 or not, but it looks like the online part shop didn't have that info yet.

UK 2018 FK8

US Honda Part 2020 FK8
View attachment 234150

The second engine is the 1.5L, not the k20C1

 

[Rainy4s]

The second engine is the 1.5L, not the k20C1

is it? I used Hondapartsonline.com to find the Type R Oil Pan assembly figure for 2020 FK8

if that's wrong, I now use the figure Dreamshop provided, all the part number is the same. probably edit the first post to avoid confusion if that's the case.

 

[CTR1633FK2]

I ordered the FL5 S grade at the local dealer. Not sure if I would get it. I am in Europe.

I cancelled the S grade order because it is taking too long to actually get it, and also because of the price difference of 7000 euro. I ordered the normal version instead.

 

[Clark_Kent]

I cancelled the S grade order because it is taking too long to actually get it, and also because of the price difference of 7000 euro. I ordered the normal version instead.

I appreciate the update. Did your dealership provide any new information on the S grade? Is there any new collateral out similar to the one posted earlier in this thread on the differences? Also, when was it expected to be available?

 

[CTR1633FK2]

I appreciate the update. Did your dealership provide any new information on the S grade? Is there any new collateral out similar to the one posted earlier in this thread on the differences? Also, when was it expected to be available?

The dealer does not know more than we do, unfortunately. Honda did not provide any info to the dealerships besides the price. All in all it feels like Honda does not really want to sell this S grade version.
It might take 1 to 2 years to get it, they said.

 

[Clark_Kent]

And this happened....

Golf GTI EDITION 50 is the fastest front-wheel drive production model on the Nürburgring Nordschleife.

 

[thatonedaveguy]

Progress marches on. The funniest thing to me is this is faster around the ring than any Golf R they have made so far.

 

[Cueyo]

It's really funny to me that it's literally by fractions of a second. Honda could go back on a better day and beat that number.

 

[madbikes]

Hope, when available, someone will pit the GTI 50th Anniversary Edition against a production FL5

 

[ChangeYourOil]

Honda will probably go after it with that HRC edition Type R.

 

[madbikes]

I was dumb. The 50th Anniversary Edition GTI was a thing close to a year ago.

I wonder if the FL5 or GTI (less the fact that it's a DSG) is easier to drive. At least the GTI is way lesser of a Pogo stick.

 

[Pfeif996]

Watching the onboard Nürburgring record lap again, something really stood out to me that I don’t see discussed very often regarding the FL5 chassis setup.

Watching the G-meter and overall chassis behavior, I was surprised by how little pitch/squat the car exhibits under throttle application. Obviously weight transfer still exists, but compared to many performance cars, the FL5 seems incredibly resistant to rearward chassis movement during acceleration.

You can tell Honda engineered the car around preserving front axle stability and tire loading at all costs, which honestly makes perfect sense for a FWD platform trying to maximize corner exit traction and steering authority.

A lot of people criticize the FL5 for being overly stiff (or swap in the Integra ADS module for daily comfort), but after watching this lap again, I’m starting to wonder if some of that stiffness is directly tied to Honda trying to keep the platform extremely controlled under transient load.

The car just stays remarkably “flat” and composed over the entire lap, especially considering:

• Nürburgring elevation changes
• Compression zones
• Early throttle pickup
• And how aggressively the rear rotates on entry

It almost feels like the entire chassis philosophy was:
“keep the front tires working no matter what.”

Maybe I’m overanalyzing it, but after rewatching the onboard a few times, it gave me a whole new appreciation for how much engineering thought went into the FL5 setup.

Just some late night thoughts for those who go out to the track.

Sponsored