Interior noises - rattles, creaks, squeaks!

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You'd think the stiffer chassis and nvh insulation, squeaks and rattles would be the thing of the past. My gti is tight as a drum so far.
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This is exactly why I always abstain from first year production models. Bugs, issues, recalls, etc. it’s inevitable, even on a Civic.
Buying a car is gambling. I've seen a lot of fk8s (20-21) with software issues (loose/weak harnasses that cause CEL and more) and noises...

On the other hand, some 2017 fk8s have no problems at all. It really is gambling! 🤞
 

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Buying a car is gambling. I've seen a lot of fk8s (20-21) with software issues (loose/weak harnasses that cause CEL and more) and noises...

On the other hand, some 2017 fk8s have no problems at all. It really is gambling! 🤞
I’ve also seen more tranny grinding issues with the earlier FK8’s. But it is gambling after all, I agree.

This may apply mostly to older cars that weren’t known for reliability in the first place, but, historically, first year models have been plagued with more issues, especially those made with performance in mind.

Some of the most sought after cars ever made were most reliable in the final production year. It doesn’t mean they didn’t have issues, just less issues overall. Some examples:

- The most sought after and reliable W140 was and still is the 1999 (last year)
- Same goes for the 2006 e46 M3 and 2003 e39 M5.
- 2008/2009 S2k’s
- Pretty much every iteration of a 911
- All Alfa Romeo’s ever made
etc.

However, I will acknowledge that this is less applicable today as many more cars are built on shared platforms and Honda is already reliable, so it may be harder to discern.

It also depends on the manufacturer and their willingness (or lack thereof) to acknowledge problems. Certain issues and recalls aren’t fully revealed until some time after launch.
 

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I’ve also seen more tranny grinding issues with the earlier FK8’s. But it is gambling after all, I agree.

This may apply mostly to older cars that weren’t known for reliability in the first place, but, historically, first year models have been plagued with more issues, especially those made with performance in mind.

Some of the most sought after cars ever made were most reliable in the final production year. It doesn’t mean they didn’t have issues, just less issues overall. Some examples:

- The most sought after and reliable W140 was and still is the 1999 (last year)
- Same goes for the 2006 e46 M3 and 2003 e39 M5.
- 2008/2009 S2k’s
- Pretty much every iteration of a 911
- All Alfa Romeo’s ever made
etc.

However, I will acknowledge that this is less applicable today as many more cars are built on shared platforms and Honda is already reliable, so it may be harder to discern.

It also depends on the manufacturer and their willingness (or lack thereof) to acknowledge problems. Certain issues and recalls aren’t fully revealed until some time after launch.
My intuition is that early models are also subject to more abuse. Within the first model year, it's not uncommon for a car to go through two or more owners with different driving styles, maintenance, storage, etc. Buyers near the end of a model cycle are more likely to keep their cars longer, since they're past the thrash-and-toss crowd. Thoughts?
 


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somehow I think natural frequency of the car have something to do with it...
with new tire and wheels, the car might be "jiggling" or "vibrating" a bit different stock wheel set up.
and if this vibration hit resonant frequencies of any lose part/harness, it will start to vibrate...
Not sure, but the only difference between cars making noise and not are the wheel set up.
if not too much troble, maybe put stock wheels back on and drive around...see if the noise is still there. Also, perhaps, try parking the car in the sun for an hour, then drive to see if noise goes away...

maybe? :bonk:
 

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Now I am scared that mine will rattle and creak. My Elantra N had so many rattles right until I sold it.
 

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Update on my creaks in center console: It stopped. Will investigate further tomorrow. Was probably something in my console like sunglasses or something.
 


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Some squeaking surfaced in the front drivers seat of my FL5 during an ACH run over the weekend. Can only hear it by rocking side to side up against the bolsters. I setup an appointment with the dealership to have a look next Monday.
 

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Some squeaking surfaced in the front drivers seat of my FL5 during an ACH run over the weekend. Can only hear it by rocking side to side up against the bolsters. I setup an appointment with the dealership to have a look next Monday.
Keep it posted please. I have a bit of squeaky sound coming from similar area!
 

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This is nothing new. The FK8 has/had various vibration/rattle and squeak issues. My 2019 FK8 has a few. I suspected the FL5 would end up the same. It is luck of the draw, you might get one without any, you might not. It can be enough to drive you insane!

However, I will say, you can get this on literally any car brand/model and I'm speaking from experience, not just assumption.
 

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Badge number #153…so far 600 miles and no rattles, squeaks etc. Hope stays like that. Car before this was a 2021 Toyota Supra with 605whp and that one had 1 o 2 rattles and it wasn’t that bad.
 

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Everyone bear in mind that taking them back to the dealer, them taking the car apart to try to fix this sort of thing can just result in fixing one and gaining several more. Where they've pulled things apart, broken clips and plastic panels are looser etc. It can be a never-ending headache.
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