Making this car more raw?

[optronix]

touche indeed, but no , i dont think it's these other psychological factors you mention, just follow me on this:

You blind fold yourself on an endless tarmac, and you just drive in any direction you want, any speed you want, turn this way and that. feeling wise, the type R feels better than the huracan. the steering feels disconnected and soulless in the huracan compared to the type r, there's something special about how the type R carries its weight in turns, the combination of how the chassis feels when weight transfers. the level of information you get coming back at you from the pedals, the steering wheel, the seat, i think it's magic, it's just right.

I dont think it's just a function of "delivers so much more in every way that matters ...... Sound, power, and yes chassis as well" that puts a car in that upper category of driver satisfaction. If that were the case., it would just be the most powerful, the most awesome engines, the fastest lap time...but there are outliers that defy this, the e30 M3 for example , people who have driven everything on earth still swear by the feel of that old car.

On paper theres no question, you are right, many cars deliver more on some sort of measurable scale in all those categories. Just the noise of that fierce v10 behind your head in the huracan is an immense joy.. but it's not just that, its how the entire car comes together as a creation and how that feels when you interface with it. every car talks back to you when you push them, they have character or lack of, it's sometimes subtle but definitely there with all the great cars.

if you really compare cars based on how they feel as a cohesive product sometimes the recipe for something truly satisfying doesn't need to be 'the most' anything in any category alone, but rather it is how it all comes together- like a peanut butter jelly sandwich. I get it, a truffle oiled imported ham , organic wheat etc sandwich tastes amazing, but it still cant take away the fact that the pbj hits the spot in the right moment better than anything else. That's the best i can try to articulate it, that the Type R gets it just right, in such a way that it is truly unique to such a degree that it's right up there driving satisfaction wise with some heavy hitters. ive seen this echoed by some real gear heads out there, including evo mag reviewers, who i think are the best out there.
I wont labor it past this point, but im trying to open your eyes here man, your DE5 is incredibly special, the damn thing was the car of the year for i forget, but some major magazine. the engineers for the type R were initimately involved in the overall design of the base FL5 chassis and structure, this is not just another tuned version of a base model, it is nearly perfect!

Again, agree to disagree but I'm tracking your perspective. This platform is better than the sum of its parts.

I just can't meet you where you're at with the "it's better than a Huracan" thing. But it is a great car!

And where I will add on is that just the simple fact that it's in the conversation with these top tier exotics says enough, right? Journalists mention that as well during their compilation tests like PCOTY and so forth. I recall reading several times how people kept going back to the FL5 and DE5 after just having driven Ferraris, McLarens, and Lambos because they're so accessible and fun.

This video is probably pretty apt. I basically agree with everything this guy is saying, and he's not far off from your POV.

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[jcb]

I love the FL5 stock...added the PRL rear engine mount, an acuity shifter, and some other minor stuff...it is great and I don't feel it needs "more rawness"....it is for 2026 pretty much perfect.

 

[caraholic]

The FL5 is an amazing machine especially when you gel with it. I am at the point where if I go take a trip to the mountains I would much rather be in my FL5 then my Porsche or Ferrari.

 

[Jack90210]

I'm back and forth about going with poly, spherical, or Spoon rubber bushings for the front ("anti-lift" kit and control arm bushing), and possibly the rear as well.

Pro and cons of each:

• Poly: can purchase individually, gives good performance, but can start to squeak if not kept lubricated;
• Spherical: can purchase individually, excellent/most direct performance, but some report clunking noises, might be too stiff/direct, expensive to purchase RV6 or similar arms;
• Spoon: rubber bushings are least likely to make noise, probably the best "OEM plus" performance, but must buy as a set for the entire car, expensive, few if any data points on performance.

I think I've read every thread on the subject and am still up in the air, anyone have any feedback on the Spoon bushing kit?

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