PRL Motorsports Downpipe / Front Pipe Pre-Order 1.5T Civic X

[michaelnyden]

So can the CVT handle the torque of intake, hondata +6psi reflash and this downpipe?

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[360glitch]

So can the CVT handle the torque of intake, hondata +6psi reflash and this downpipe?

From what I've seen your best bet with the CVT to make the most out of everything is to have a tuner such as @VitViper do a custom tune for you. He can regulate the torque that is going through your CVT to keep it within comfortable levels but still pick up horsepower gains. I know he can easily do that with Ktuner, not sure about Hondata due to it's current limitations.

 

[michaelnyden]

From what I've seen your best bet with the CVT to make the most out of everything is to have a tuner such as @VitViper do a custom tune for you. He can regulate the torque that is going through your CVT to keep it within comfortable levels but still pick up horsepower gains. I know he can easily do that with Ktuner, not sure about Hondata due to it's current limitations.

So basically nobody knows the "safe" level of torque and mods for the CVT except the tuners, so I should ask a tuner like Hondata if I should buy the downpipe cause I know they broke a CVT trying to find the limit.

 

[360glitch]

So basically nobody knows the "safe" level of torque and mods for the CVT except the tuners, so I should ask a tuner like Hondata if I should buy the downpipe cause I know they broke a CVT trying to find the limit.

I think we determined that Hondata doesn't really know the limit either, only that they pushed theirs hard and ended up having some issues. I don't want to knock Hondata but I'd recommend checking with @VitViper, though he has already said that he can extract extra more HP with the downpipe while keeping the torque at safe levels.

 

[IronFusion]

So can the CVT handle the torque of intake, hondata +6psi reflash and this downpipe?

That's an not entirely known. What is, however, is the money saved on this downpipe combo if we get to 20 pre-orders can always go toward a refurbished or new CVT if the answer is not what we would all like to hear!

 

[kshawn]

That's an not entirely known. What is, however, is the money saved on this downpipe combo if we get to 20 pre-orders can always go toward a refurbished or new CVT if the answer is not what we would all like to hear!

I'll let you guys know how mine fares, after I'm tuned for it. I'm curious what can be squeezed from it. And the earlier and quicker boost will be nice!

 

[omigulay]

Just 4 more people until we get that 20% off! c'mon people!

 

[PRL Motorsports]

Well guys, here's the news we've all been waiting for...

Our V2 300 CEL cat with high load coating triggered a CEL within only a few miles of driving. We almost made it through our testing cycle by using a 90 degree angled defouler with the smallest opening as possible without triggering a CEL. It doesn't appear that there will be a way to offer a proper aftermarket cat that will keep CELs off unless users turn it off via KTuner or until Hondata offers any sort of support. Could we try a 400 CEL? Yes, but there is still no guarantee that this will keep off CELs. There is also the possibility that a CEL could be thrown, weeks, months, or even a year down the line leaving us with unhappy customers. A 400 CEL cat in such a narrow body would be almost as restrictive as the factory cat that has such a wide body, so we didn't find it appropriate to bother testing one.

If this is a deal-breaker for any of our catted customers we completely understand. 100% refunds of the deposits can/will be given. Keep in mind that our 3" front pipe can still be purchased and ran with the factory cat if desired.

With that being said, the pre-order ends this Friday, 4/14/17. Gaskets are finished, all hardware is in, we are just finishing production and packaging for shipment by next week. Catless combos will ship first, followed by catted combos. We wanted to gauge a feel for how many customers would still like to order the catted version.

 

[PGammon]

Well guys, here's the news we've all been waiting for...

Our V2 300 CEL cat with high load coating triggered a CEL within only a few miles of driving. We almost made it through our testing cycle by using a 90 degree angled defouler with the smallest opening as possible without triggering a CEL. It doesn't appear that there will be a way to offer a proper aftermarket cat that will keep CELs off unless users turn it off via KTuner or until Hondata offers any sort of support. Could we try a 400 CEL? Yes, but there is still no guarantee that this will keep off CELs. There is also the possibility that a CEL could be thrown, weeks, months, or even a year down the line leaving us with unhappy customers. A 400 CEL cat in such a narrow body would be almost as restrictive as the factory cat that has such a wide body, so we didn't find it appropriate to bother testing one.

If this is a deal-breaker for any of our catted customers we completely understand. 100% refunds of the deposits can/will be given. Keep in mind that our 3" front pipe can still be purchased and ran with the factory cat if desired.

With that being said, the pre-order ends this Friday, 4/14/17. Gaskets are finished, all hardware is in, we are just finishing production and packaging for shipment by next week. Catless combos will ship first, followed by catted combos. We wanted to gauge a feel for how many customers would still like to order the catted version.

Dang it! I wonder if multiple defoulers or even one like this would keep it off. Not sure how much slack there is in the wiring.

https://www.amazon.com/Vibrant-11619-J-Style-Restrictor-Adjustable/dp/B00AQ7972O

 

[PRL Motorsports]

Dang it! I wonder if multiple defoulers or even one like this would keep it off. Not sure how much slack there is in the wiring.

https://www.amazon.com/Vibrant-11619-J-Style-Restrictor-Adjustable/dp/B00AQ7972O

That is the style that we used.

 

[dc2turbo]

do you think maybe moving the cat to the front pipe and extend the o2 down there would help?

 

[PRL Motorsports]

do you think maybe moving the cat to the front pipe and extend the o2 down there would help?

There is no room for this and we don't forsee o2 placement working. Typically CELs are triggered from moving the o2 placement farther from the factory location.

 

[IronFusion]

Well guys, here's the news we've all been waiting for...

Our V2 300 CEL cat with high load coating triggered a CEL within only a few miles of driving. We almost made it through our testing cycle by using a 90 degree angled defouler with the smallest opening as possible without triggering a CEL. It doesn't appear that there will be a way to offer a proper aftermarket cat that will keep CELs off unless users turn it off via KTuner or until Hondata offers any sort of support. Could we try a 400 CEL? Yes, but there is still no guarantee that this will keep off CELs. There is also the possibility that a CEL could be thrown, weeks, months, or even a year down the line leaving us with unhappy customers. A 400 CEL cat in such a narrow body would be almost as restrictive as the factory cat that has such a wide body, so we didn't find it appropriate to bother testing one.

If this is a deal-breaker for any of our catted customers we completely understand. 100% refunds of the deposits can/will be given. Keep in mind that our 3" front pipe can still be purchased and ran with the factory cat if desired.

With that being said, the pre-order ends this Friday, 4/14/17. Gaskets are finished, all hardware is in, we are just finishing production and packaging for shipment by next week. Catless combos will ship first, followed by catted combos. We wanted to gauge a feel for how many customers would still like to order the catted version.

if CELs are turned off with a flash tuner, is that action selective to this sort of case, or is it a blanket action that would suppress indications of other system failures? Also, do the tuners just deactivate the light? That is, does obdii still throw codes?

 

[NeoDragons]

Well guys, here's the news we've all been waiting for...

Our V2 300 CEL cat with high load coating triggered a CEL within only a few miles of driving. We almost made it through our testing cycle by using a 90 degree angled defouler with the smallest opening as possible without triggering a CEL. It doesn't appear that there will be a way to offer a proper aftermarket cat that will keep CELs off unless users turn it off via KTuner or until Hondata offers any sort of support. Could we try a 400 CEL? Yes, but there is still no guarantee that this will keep off CELs. There is also the possibility that a CEL could be thrown, weeks, months, or even a year down the line leaving us with unhappy customers. A 400 CEL cat in such a narrow body would be almost as restrictive as the factory cat that has such a wide body, so we didn't find it appropriate to bother testing one.

If this is a deal-breaker for any of our catted customers we completely understand. 100% refunds of the deposits can/will be given. Keep in mind that our 3" front pipe can still be purchased and ran with the factory cat if desired.

With that being said, the pre-order ends this Friday, 4/14/17. Gaskets are finished, all hardware is in, we are just finishing production and packaging for shipment by next week. Catless combos will ship first, followed by catted combos. We wanted to gauge a feel for how many customers would still like to order the catted version.

i may just stick with mine. might do some testing with some defoulers or just wait it out hoping hondata will have a fix (*cough* should throw in some free shirts for the trouble *cough**cough*)

 

[PGammon]

i may just stick with mine. might do some testing with some defoulers or just wait it out hoping hondata will have a fix (*cough* should throw in some free shirts for the trouble *cough**cough*)

I may keep mine as well and try an angled defouler with some heat wrap stuffed in it. I read a post on another forum where that kept enough gases out to keep CELs off. Or switch to the catless DP and get a K Tuner.

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