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Rock chips on Type R rocker panels after skipping PPF

Clark_Kent

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I disagree with this. How the car was painted certainly has something to do with this. Yes PTS does not have anything to do with this as if it was done correctly it shoulda not come off but paint prep certainly matters, thickness of coat and clear. PTS is painted in a different place by different people and a few at a time so its not unreasonable to think that could be some issues that will be harder to catch that painting the same color 500 times every few days.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threa...ing-ppf-install-2023-boost-blue-type-r.51382/

this is the thread where paint was pulling on the type R whole ppf was being installed not even removed. Its just paint but it was either not prepped properly or painted properly
You’re conflating two separate issues.

Paint quality absolutely matters. If the surface wasn’t prepped correctly, or the base/clear didn’t cure or bond properly, you can run into adhesion problems. That’s true whether it’s a Honda Civic Type R or an Aston Martin DBR1. And yeah, edge cases like what you linked during install usually point to a paint defect or curing issue, not the film itself.

Where I’d push back is tying that to PTS as a category, which you did. Paint to Sample isn’t inherently weaker or more prone to failure, that's simply not true and there's zero credible evidence available to suggest otherwise. If it exists, post it, as I'd love to see it. It’s still OEM paint applied to OEM standards. The process may be lower volume, but it’s not like it skips QC or suddenly introduces systemic risk.

So, again, the removal outcome is driven more by factors like how the PPF was installed, how long it’s been on the car, environmental exposure, and removal technique.
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You’re conflating two separate issues.

Paint quality absolutely matters. If the surface wasn’t prepped correctly, or the base/clear didn’t cure or bond properly, you can run into adhesion problems. That’s true whether it’s a Honda Civic Type R or an Aston Martin DBR1. And yeah, edge cases like what you linked during install usually point to a paint defect or curing issue, not the film itself.

Where I’d push back is tying that to PTS as a category, which you did. Paint to Sample isn’t inherently weaker or more prone to failure, that's simply not true and there's zero credible evidence available to suggest otherwise. If it exists, post it, as I'd love to see it. It’s still OEM paint applied to OEM standards. The process may be lower volume, but it’s not like it skips QC or suddenly introduces systemic risk.

So, again, the removal outcome is driven more by factors like how the PPF was installed, how long it’s been on the car, environmental exposure, and removal technique.
I agree with that and I have no evidence or experience with PTS just what I remember reading back when that video from obsessed garage was posted thats all. Porsche actually is known to have really good paint, unlike Ferrari but I did find it credible that PTS could have more issues since smaller sampler size painted at a different place (its 10+ k option so I am sure QC is high as well but if there are issues I can see how it would be harder to track than a non pts color). But again I have no evidence and just what I read on a porsche forum.
 

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so now I am getting tons of PPF videos on youtube

This is crazy

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